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Ok just buy a cooler a cheap one from Walmart, not those expensive yeti that holds ice for 3 days. Fill it with a small ice pack. Then place the phone 5 inches from the ice pack close it, and charge it overnight. It should keep the phone in the sweet sport of no heating while charging.

You can thank me in 5 years and your battery health is still over 85%
 
Ok just buy a cooler a cheap one from Walmart, not those expensive yeti that holds ice for 3 days. Fill it with a small ice pack. Then place the phone 5 inches from the ice pack close it, and charge it overnight. It should keep the phone in the sweet sport of no heating while charging.

You can thank me in 5 years and your battery health is still over 85%
haha at that point a replacement battery would be cheaper. A $12 fan on amazon should be fine.
 
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haha at that point a replacement battery would be cheaper. A $12 fan on amazon should be fine.
It’s the same principle as charging your phone in the car over the ac vent. This phone holder in my other car places the phone near the ac vent. My phone is cold while charging. OP can always string a long charging wire near the central ac vents or vents of their home ac unit and hanging their phone with modified clothes hanging from the laundry mat.
 
It’s the same principle as charging your phone in the car over the ac vent. This phone holder in my other car places the phone near the ac vent. My phone is cold while charging. OP can always string a long charging wire near the central ac vents or vents of their home ac unit and hanging their phone with modified clothes hanging from the laundry mat.
haha maybe we should build something and sell it on amazon. after doing all that I think OP could just pay for replacement battery
 
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Yeah, that’s why I mentioned wirelessly charging. It generates heat regardless of charger quality. You and I both know that Belkin is good, yet it isn’t enough to prevent your wife’s 15PM from dropping to unacceptable levels. The plate being too hot to touch half an hour later is ludicrous - 5w chargers that heat up are good to go in a few minutes (it has happened to me, though not to the extreme you mentioned earlier). The new battery should perform more normally, even with a fast charger.

Now, the question is… (obviously assuming no fires, of course) what can the consequence of the 5w charger outputting 7-8w be? Can that performance over-capacity do something to the phone, assuming the charger is “strained” but still functioning normally? Apple stated until they sold it, iirc, that it was compatible with every iPhone. Or is it just efficiency loss and in spite of the yellowing it should be “fine”? (Even though it is obviously not performing as intended. I really don’t think yellowing due to heat is expected behaviour).

I just unplugged my 16 Plus, but it is at 100% so it is trickle charging. I’ll touch the Power Adapter next time I charge it from below 80%.


This is something I wonder, too: slower (arguably cooler, in spite of the brick itself) charging for longer, or faster (but not too fast and not too hot, like wireless) charging with more heat but a shorter time charging? Say, like I charge once every year or so, a 20w.

Which of those two options is better?

I am inclined to say that they are the same: after all, even with no scientific test, people have shared results left and right; unlike wireless charging which kills health pretty predictably, neither the 5w or the 20w Power Adapters seem to have a negative result.


The comparison between adapters seems, like you said, luck of the draw.

Yeah, that is pretty much my conundrum. I’ve used the 5w for years on end with no negative results. Should strong evidence arise and conclusively prove that the 20w is better than the 5w for every usage pattern, I’ll gladly switch - after all, were that to be the case, then it would be all benefit: faster charging, no heat, and no health degradation more than that for which my usage pattern is responsible.


So I think the conclusion is very simple: use a 5w if it doesn’t get ridiculously hot; otherwise use a 20w. Regardless of your selection, avoid wireless charging and heat, and your device will probably be completely fine.

Some family members cycle their devices a lot more than me. They’ve charged overnight with a 5w regardless of percentage, and the devices are fine. I’m using an iPhone 8 (which, as I dislike breaking tradition I just keep charging with the 5w). 2261 cycles. 76% health. iOS 14. The device is completely fine.

Had it been charged with a wireless charger, the battery would probably be gone. Perhaps even not updating would not be enough to counteract the massive battery failure.

I would not know, because I haven’t degraded an original device enough to know whether a really low health degrades battery life.

Funnily enough… I have a device with battery failure. A family member’s iPhone 6s on iOS 10. It dropped below 80% after one year and 300 cycles. As my motto is “who cares about battery health and replacements, anyway?”, I have it after my family stopped using it. It shows anywhere between 60 and 70% health today. The battery “failed” eight years ago.

Battery life is like-new. 7-8 hours of light SOT, 6 hours of light cellular. It failed eight years ago. I can’t give a better reason for why I don’t care about health than that one.
Have you tried the new $39 apple dynamic power charger that one could be the best.
 
Been using the 5w charger since my first iPhone 4 all the way up to my 14 pro. Getting the 17 pro at the end of the month and I bought the 20w charger as I didn’t feel like buying a usb-a to c cable as I will just use the one that comes in the box. Planning on plugging in every night overnight like I always have with optimized battery charging on. I’m assuming my health will be fine. Since I’m a 2-4 hour SOT a day user in guessing iOS will probably suggest I set my charge limit to 80%. We will see how the health degrades in the coming years but I have a feeling my obsession with the 5w charging overnight will be put to rest as it should.
 
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