Nope. Sonnet has had a very similar style for a while.Also not true. Several others also bus powered 40Gbps NVMe BYOD. The only unique “first” thing is their internal cable mechanism that makes it replaceable.
Nope. Sonnet has had a very similar style for a while.Also not true. Several others also bus powered 40Gbps NVMe BYOD. The only unique “first” thing is their internal cable mechanism that makes it replaceable.
On Facebook OWC said it is Thunderbolt only.Would this be Thunderbolt only, or would it work with USB-C?
The OWC Blog post mentions the OWC Aura P12 SSD which currently comes in capacities up to 4TB but you can use any 2280 M.2 NVMe SSD.Ok I want to buy this but can't find the 4TB SSD that's mention. I don't want to buy the wrong one
A USB4 computer needs to support PCIe tunnelling (optional) to support this type of Thunderbolt device. The computer might support PCIe tunnelling over USB4 but not over Thunderbolt (optional). In that case, you would need to connect a USB4 hub or dock which are required to support Thunderbolt on their downward facing ports (but these devices still require the computer to support PCIe tunnelling).Will this also be USB4 compatible or just Thunderbolt 3 only?
USB4 spec says the following about Thunderbolt and PCIe tunnelling support:
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UBS4 docks (subset of hubs so these must contain a PCIe switch)
I don't think that ARM (Apple Silicon) Macs support TB3. I still want one though - for now - it'd be an awesome external Bootcamp drive.
I would be highly surprised if the actual consumer products don't have TB3 (or, really, USB4 with TB3 compatability), the dev hardware doesnt because it's basically re-using the current iPad Pro SoC
Also not true. Several others also bus powered 40Gbps NVMe BYOD. The only unique “first” thing is their internal cable mechanism that makes it replaceable.
Nope. Sonnet has had a very similar style for a while.
You’re right. Looks like you are forced to use it that way because it’s that way in the picture. I guess there are special sensors that disable the hardware if it’s not mounted to your laptop lid. Or maybe they just send a guy over to your house to make sure.What does the pic show?
I remember this lady at my Starbucks had a 500GB Lacey hard drive glued to the lid of her MacBook with the same yellow spray foam a handyman uses to patch holes in stucco. Horrific look.
How long will it be until we don’t need wires and use WiFi and wireless charge from our devices ?
Ha! I have a 2015 MacBook Pro with a 256GB internal SSD, which wasn't enough storage even when I bought it, but it was all I could afford at the time. A couple years ago, I bought a 1TB SSD, put it in a USB 3.0 enclosure, and Velcroed it to the top of my MBP. Sure, it's ugly, but it works! I call it the Remora Drive, after those fish that cling onto sharks. At various times, I've considered replacing the internal SSD with one of OWC's 1TB internal SSDs, but the computer is five years old, the 8GB of RAM isn't enough for some of the stuff I do, and I bought a 2019 iMac for the heavy lifting.
Another thing you can do is just get a cheap pin adapter to plug an M.2 NVME SDD directly into your 2015 MacBook Pro. If it’s the 2015 15” model it should work fine with hibernate, and have awesome performance. I did this with my old 2015 MacBook Pro 15”.
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For at least some of us, an internal M2 slot wouldn't be as useful. I specifically use an external SSD so I can swap between computers with it.
That's not to say that modular SSDs in MBP's wouldn't be nice - it would of course, but its a different problem than what this type of device solves, for me at least.
Thanks for the tip! I have the 13" model.
Seems to me you should get PCIe 3.0 x4 for free with any Thunderbolt 3 controller. Is there a PCIe 3.0 x2 variety that is a lot cheaper?
That is not the solution to the problem I'd prefer. If only there were some way to mount a replaceable storage device like that *inside* the computer while keeping the computer small and sleek.
Oh well, I guess if Apple's magical engineers can't figure it out, it must be impossible and the Razor Blade, Lenovo X1, Dell XPS, and the various ultraslim notebooks from Asus and MSI and others are just figments of our imagination.
Good price for a TB3, but how have they managed to make it so slow?
Note that Thunderbolt in 2020 Ice Lake MacBook Pro doesn't have that limitation. You can use any two ports (same side or different side) and get the same top performance.That makes the pair about the same speed as the internal for writes, and significantly faster than the internal for reads! Note, to get that you have to connect one to each side of the MBP, to spread it across the two controllers (one controller each side, each drives both its side's two ports).
The 10 Gbps tier is not Thunderbolt - it is USB 3.1 gen 2 - and therefore compatible with more computers. Are there two tiers of TB3 controller (one with less performance than the other)?There were two tiers of TB3 performance for the small SSDs: 10Gbps and 40Gbps. The lower one was around $30-$40 on amazon, the higher one $100+. This one is smack in the middle: better performance, cheaper price. I think this one is going to be the value performance.
Up to now, only max performance has been reported on vendor websites. I don't think it was a good idea to start reporting real-world performance this late in the game... Even this vendor reports 2800 MB/s on some products (that's higher than the 22 Gbps 2750 MB/s limit that we know about - maybe they rounded up or maybe computer performance has improved since Intel first quoted 22 Gbps) without showing benchmarks like they do for non-Thunderbolt products. They don't explain how they got the 2800 MB/s number. So given that, perhaps this real-world performance number is near to max performance number because of PCIe limit inside the enclosure. We'll find out when someone tests it - The PCI section of System Information.app will tell what the PCIe link is.That claim of “UP TO1553MB/s” is for "REAL-WORLD PERFORMANCE" on the vendor’s web site… not benchmark results. Keep in mind that all of today’s M.2 NVME boards throttle their speed when getting hot under rapid usage. I would reserve your judgement until real units ship.
If only more vendors advertised real-world performance rather than some artificial peak result unattainable in practical usage.
It's not great. Writes are pretty darn slow. But reads are much faster than writes, good enough for media and certain space-hogging things like Xcode, Android Studio, and their libraries.Speed on that can’t be great though? The last MacBook Pro with an SD slot had it wired via a usb2 bus.
The express card slot on 17” was good for an SSD. Did get mighty warm though.