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Wow. Farce. At this rate the mega-hub one has to buy is soon going to be a bigger investment than your macbook. Just wait unitl the ports become self-aware and try to take over the world!
 
And people wonder why USB-C isn't catching on to the general public...

I don't wonder about that at all... I was just at my local Staples store the other day and they had USB-C thumb drives for sale next to the checkout. My Dell XPS 15 has USB-C. Now that Apple is all-in on it, you're going to see an even faster adoption rate (especially since the new MacBook Pros are selling at an all-time-high rate).
 
Would I be able to plug a rMB into this? My wife has a 2016 MacBook and I have a new Macbook Pro. We have a Dell 34" at home along with a couple of external drives and this would be great if we could both connect our laptops when one of us needs the screen, fulling understanding the rMB wouldn't get TB3 speeds.
 
$279? Are they ****ing crazy?

I was at the Apple Store last night and a manager casually strolled by and started talking to me about my thoughts on the new MacBook Pros. I told him overall it's was okay but my biggest sticking point was the transition to USB-C and the correlated dock purchases. Told him I would need to spend around $200 on 4 docks to connect my existing stuff. He didn't have an answer for me but said that's the sacrifice of new tech. Gave me CD drives as an example. Then he figured I really didn't need that many and proceeded to the Dock Wall. I showed him which ones I needed and it did indeed end up being 4 at around $200. I told him instead of this massively ridiculous Wall of Docks, Apple could easily make an all-in-one dock and charge $50 for it. At this point he said, "And you know what, I bet Belkin will do that." He had no answers for me lol. I should've made a stronger point for providing docks for free since they cost so little to manufacture, but before I could, he pretended to have another customer needing his help and disappeared into the ether. So yeah. Apple knows it's ridiculous. We should start calling is the Ridiculous Dock Wall to get the point across.
 
And it's these types of pricing why TB is useless to most and people are happy with USB-A

Only apple users are forced to get these docks due to apple removing thier ports.

OWC stuff is not superior to what PC users can but, but they are given mac customers on a platter, lack of competition
 
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This dock actually has a pretty decent price. An additional charger and 2M charging cable set you back $98. In the situation where you'd want to use a dock, you'd used to have a charging solution as well. You can save those pennies when you get this dock.

I'm probably getting one for my home studio and might get one for in the office. This thing really brings the future, you connect one single able to your new MacBook Pro and everything is connected. That's a lot better than connecting all this stuff to your Macbook if it would have all the legacy ports. And as I mentioned, it saves me buying new chargers for both places since I hate crawling under desks.

I already ordered the mentioned Satechi hub for on the road. That hub has got it's purpose, but it's in no way comparable to this dock.
 
Oh, I have some old things archived on Firewire 800 drives. I don't "use" Firewire, but it's kinda handy to have the option. But, yeah, I'm surprised too.

I guess they figure that anyone investing in Thunderbolt3 has probably always had the fastest connectivity, and so might have older drives to copy here and there. It's a nice touch.


I agree. I still use a FW800 3TB drive and I was pleasantly surprised to see it made the cut. I'd hate to have a perfectly fine working drive lying around that I couldn't connect.
 
100% honest non sarcastic question: who is using FW800?

I actually REALLY wish they went with eSATA over FW800 on this one and I say this as someone who still uses FireWire. I have a TB -> FW adapter on my laptop which is mainly used when working on older Macs I boot up in target disk mode (modern Macs can just go TB -> TB). I also have an older FireWire 800 drive that's running of a Mac Mini that I use as my Time Machine server at home.

FW is a lot more important in the Apple world (and always has been) than outside and OWC is definitely Mac-centric.
 
100% honest non sarcastic question: who is using FW800?
I use it with a professional audio interface (Universal Audio Apollo Quad), as well as a Mobius 5 bay enclosure... the USB 3 is glitchy and auto-ejects. So I use FW800 because it is reliable. I wish I could use USB 3 with it but no dice.
 
What about power? I'm assuming this'll provide enough to charge the 15", but it doesn't state that anywhere.

I asked them if it charges the 13", they said it charges like their USB C dock. That one has 60 watts for computer charging. That wouldn't be enough for the 15".

They also said they'll have more specific specs up closer to release.
 
I still do when I have to. Lots of people using audio interfaces need it.

Just because I choose to go bleeding edge, doesn't mean that all of my clients, customers, and contractors will. My main client owns nearly 50 LaCie rugged FW800 drives for shipping footage from the field to post. They aren't interested in replacing all of them overnight, just because it's no longer an optimal port.

Here's the thing about video production and post. New tech may evolve quickly, but in order to maximize profit, you use what works until it doesn't, and a lot of the old stuff still works fine. Companies bought tons of FW800 stuff, and a lot of it still works. Sure, I'm not going to edit to a FW800 drive today, as I have much faster drives available to me, but those FW800 drives can still work as backups, or as a means of shipping footage.
Right and for Audio they work fine! Thats why I decided to go with a 2012 2.7 quad MBP, has all of the ports and
is probably at least 80% as fast and I only have $1050 in it and thats with a 1gig SSD.
Interested to see what Apple comes out with next year :)
 
$279, ouch. Inflation is real!

The original was/is $250.

Although with the absurd amount Apple is charging for their USB-C chargers, keep in mind this is also a charger.

This isn't just an Apple issue though. Dell makes a similar device:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1UH4VX9262

And theirs isn't nearly as nice as this unit. Thunderbolt devices command a premium for a few reasons right now:

1. They're still fairly niche (which is changing, thank goodness).

2. They're usually aimed at pros where the performance makes a difference.

3. The hardware involved is more sophisticated than USB (and unlike USB, it doesn't rely on the processor near as much).
 
This dock actually has a pretty decent price. An additional charger and 2M charging cable set you back $98. In the situation where you'd want to use a dock, you'd used to have a charging solution as well. You can save those pennies when you get this dock.

I'm probably getting one for my home studio and might get one for in the office. This thing really brings the future, you connect one single able to your new MacBook Pro and everything is connected. That's a lot better than connecting all this stuff to your Macbook if it would have all the legacy ports. And as I mentioned, it saves me buying new chargers for both places since I hate crawling under desks.

I already ordered the mentioned Satechi hub for on the road. That hub has got it's purpose, but it's in no way comparable to this dock.

You think $279 + $98 = $377 is reasonable simply to be able to plug devices into your $1500 and up MBP ?? are you crazy ? You could but a whole other computer for that much (of course not a very good one - but a computer none the less)
 
Thunderbolt devices command a premium for a few reasons right now:

Agreed... Thunderbolt devices have been and continue to be in a premium market segment. Admittedly, they provide most of the benefits I seek as a high-end user. Although, I still find it a bit ridiculous that the one solution to my storage "issues" that is coming to the market will cost about $10,000. The LaCie 12big 48TB supposedly starts at $6,399 according to MacRumors, and I would want the highest capacity they offer, which LaCie claims is 96TB (MacRumors claimed 120TB).
 
You think $279 + $98 = $377 is reasonable simply to be able to plug devices into your $1500 and up MBP ?? are you crazy ? You could but a whole other computer for that much (of course not a very good one - but a computer none the less)

My (not that well written) argument was that you won't need that additional charger since the dock acts as a charger as well (edit: and it comes with a Thunderbolt cable). That brings in the "hub" part of the dock at $181 which is reasonable in my opinion.

Though reading through this thread it might only provide enough power to charge the 13" Pro in which case: :( (but that's not official yet, so I'm still positive for now).
 
You think $279 + $98 = $377 is reasonable simply to be able to plug devices into your $1500 and up MBP ?? are you crazy ? You could but a whole other computer for that much (of course not a very good one - but a computer none the less)

Those of us who actually use computers professionally have been paying $200-300 for docks for 20 years. And they are specific to one computer, or at best one range of computers from one manufacturer who inevitably changes the docking interface at the next update.

This is really NBD.
 
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