Paddle Plans to Launch Alternative In-App Purchase System on iOS That Circumvents Apple's Fees

[Sophisticatednut]

I was referring to app developers abandoning the iOS app market and choosing to focus solely on android. The reason why I don’t think this will happen is because iOS is still where the money is. Hence my statement, representing that app developers still earn way more on iOS compared to android, even if app developers had to pay Apple 30% and Google nothing.

Indeed, and apple will be forced it seem to open up competitive payment options and the ability to link information to their customers after the initial purchase is done

 

[I7guy]

Yes because the business world is not binary. If it was we would be royally screwed. If apple can bend the knee to Chinese censors I think they can give people some freedoms.

The two are difference scenarios.

Okey. Apple gives close to zero investment compared to other companies

I wonder why.

We all know apple are to greedy to exit the market.

Who knows such things?

I don’t care if apple hosts thing for free. They should have thought about that before being so greedy and provided developers the ability to use cheap payment options.
The App Store is made to sell iOS devices, if they believe it’s to make money, then the world have something else to say about that

There is an old expression, it ain't over until it's over. If you believe Apple is greedy there are other vendors who perhaps have a closer alignment to your qualifications. Apple is entitled to legally earn it's revenue. If governments want to Monday morning quarterback we'll see where it goes.

Yes they should be punished if they misuse this fortune to quell any competition. If apple can complain that Qualcomm have too high fees then developers can get lower fees

Indeed so apple will get back in line or GTFO of the world market.

Or they'll fight and win. Anything can happen.

 

[Sophisticatednut]

The two are difference scenarios.

They are exactly the same. Apple pleasing China for revenue. And EU forcing apple to comply with more freedom to keep their revenue stream

I wonder why.

Apple is in the business of making money not investing in other places that aren’t in their economic interest.

Who knows such things?

Hmm, Chinese interests or Russia default apps. I think apple will always pick money before leaving EU or Korea.

There is an old expression, it ain't over until it's over. If you believe Apple is greedy there are other vendors who perhaps have a closer alignment to your qualifications. Apple is entitled to legally earn it's revenue. If governments want to Monday morning quarterback we'll see where it goes.

I don’t align my moral values with companies, that would just be weird. I purchase goods I like and do my best to force companies I do business with to improv in my favor, by influencing legislations or legal suits in my favor.

**right to repair?** Force it hard on apple
**Side loading?** Harder
**Difrent IAP models with no cut to apple?** I Force it as hard as I can
**Forcing apple and other companies to pay taxes on local revenue?** I’m doing my part

Or they'll fight and win. Anything can happen.

they will fight. And globally it’s looking dark for this fruit company
Chinese interests

 

[I7guy]

They are exactly the same. Apple pleasing China for revenue. And EU forcing apple to comply with more freedom to keep their revenue stream

No. They are different scenarios.

Apple is in the business of making money not investing in other places that aren’t in their economic interest.

Apple is in the business of providing a service. Peter Drucker 101. Based on the success they will make money (or not).

Hmm, Chinese interests or Russia default apps. I think apple will always pick money before leaving EU or Korea.

You mean by following the laws of the land? Even in the IS apple has to follow the laws.

I don’t align my moral values with companies, that would just be weird. I purchase goods I like and do my best to force companies I do business with to improv in my favor, by influencing legislations or legal suits in my favor.

**right to repair?** Force it hard on apple
**Side loading?** Harder
**Difrent IAP models with no cut to apple?** I Force it as hard as I can
**Forcing apple and other companies to pay taxes on local revenue?** I’m doing my part

they will fight. And globally it’s looking dark for this fruit company
Chinese interests

Right to repair. Apple has to figure out something that works. Everything else. Hard no. Government should stay out this micro-regulation. As far as taxes. Yeah, pay what you owe and not a cent more.

 

[GermanSuplex]

I don’t care if apple hosts thing for free. They should have thought about that before being so greedy and provided developers the ability to use cheap payment options.

They should have thought about charging developers hosting fees before demanding a slice of profits they willingly sign up for?

Come on, man.

 

[Sophisticatednut]

No. They are different scenarios.

It's the law of the land. how is it different?

Apple is in the business of providing a service. Peter Drucker 101. Based on the success they will make money (or not).

And if they don't make money, they will go under.

You mean by following the laws of the land? Even in the IS apple has to follow the laws

Exactly what apple will need to do in EU as well.

...Everything else. Hard no. Government should stay out this micro-regulation. As far as taxes. Yeah, pay what you owe and not a cent more.

why? Jailbreaking is already legal and apple can only patch the exploits of free people from using their devices.

ether apple have sideloading as an option
or they allow programs i own give me a potentially cheaper payment option. And yes i would use Apple Pay instead of IAP the second it's available.
apple need to earn that 30% cut on the open market.

or would you also defend to the death of apple taking 40% cut on add revenue? remember apple iAd as teh industry standard? well it failed dramaticaly as it coldnt compete. same should be the case with IAP

They should have thought about charging developers hosting fees before demanding a slice of profits they willingly sign up for?

Come on, man.

well duh. if apple actually was more careful they would't be in the legal mess in the first place to potentially be forced to support sideloading as free apps only pay 99$ a year and dont even share their revenue

2% to 3.5% of Apple's 30% goes to to M/C Visa and AMEX and it would be the same with EPIC. Your minimum charge 4-7% seems to come from nowhere.

I'm telling you 30% margin for the distributor is very common, if not low, for the vast majority of products.

EU have capped fees at 0.3 0.4% fees M/C Visa

 

[jesse10RR]

Indeed, and apple will be forced it seem to open up competitive payment options and the ability to link information to their customers after the initial purchase is done

I'm not quite sure that they will be literally forced to do that. Or maybe you're talking about government fees, than it sounds like a possible thing. If we talk about reliable in-application purchase systems, I would definitely recommend something like Adapty with their ios iap sdk options, because I've seen their code of their products, and know for sure, that it works just like it should.