Page Up, Page Down

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  1. MareLuce, Nov 20, 2016
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2016

    MareLuce macrumors 6502

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    Am transitioning to new MacBook Pro from Thinkpad. I need to page up and page down hundreds (thousands?) of times each day in email, documents, presentations, spreadsheets.

    Am used to page up or page down being a single keystroke without conscious thought:
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    On the MacBook, I see I can page down by:
    • Press Function key with my fifth finger, left hand.
      Then, while holding the Function key held down, press Down Arrow key with my right hand.

      Problem: This
      - Doubles the number of keystrokes for something I do hundreds (thousands?) of times each day
      - Makes me move both hands off the keyboard, not just 1 hand
      - Requires conscious thought, at least right now

    I realize I can scroll downward by:
    • Swipe 2 fingers up. However, this is not really equivalent to a page down. It’s easy to go too far down and miss spreadsheet rows or paragraphs.


    Question:
    How could I make it possible to page up or page down in 1 keystroke or touchpad gesture, preferably with my right hand?


    Ex: Could I define a 3-finger tap to be Page Down? (and something else to be Page Up?)

    Would a 3'rd party tool do this?
     
  2. anson42 macrumors regular

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    I think you need a third party solution for flexible keyboard remapping. Here's one:

    https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/

    but it currently doesn't work with Mac OS Sierra.
     
  3. MareLuce thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Thank you @anson42 I just donated to their open source effort.

    This is one of the 2 friction points I need to figure out before I make this laptop my main work and personal laptop.

    I'm thinking about remapping as follows:

    Right side Option key = Page Down
    Right side Command key = Page Up

    What could be the unintended consequences of doing that?
     
  4. Chancha macrumors 6502a

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    I don't think it is universal, but in Apple native apps like Safari, page up down can be done by option+up/down. The right side option key is literally adjacent to the arrow keys, I can do this with one hand easily.
     
  5. anson42 macrumors regular

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    If the software allows mapping the right side modifier keys separate from the left side ones then I can't think of any. I almost never use the right side ones myself because the Control key is missing so I tend to only use modifies on the left side. I might consider doing that you're thinking, too.

    As @Chancha indicated, the right side modifiers are right next to the arrow keys so technically you do page up/down via Option-Up/Down one handed but only for some applications, because the general mapping is Function-Up/Down.
     
  6. jackoatmon macrumors 6502a

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    spacebar and shift spacebar are page up and page down in a bunch of stuff

    i know it's not as good as the real thing haha, but until you figure it out
     
  7. Murgatroyd314 macrumors regular

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    Better Touch Tool can do exactly this, assigning touchpad gestures of your choice to act as those keystrokes. For instance, you could use a 3-finger tap at the top of the pad to be Page Up, and one at the bottom to be Page Down.
     
  8. MareLuce, Dec 10, 2016
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2016

    MareLuce thread starter macrumors 6502

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    IT WORKS IT WORKS IT WORKS!!! Such a relief!

    @Murgatroyd314 , You ROCK !!!
    Developer of Better Touch Tool, You ROCK!

    Ta Da..... !!!

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    I wish I could make clean-looking key stickers like what I created above on the photo with SnagIt.

    Plus I wish I could make a little nibbit above my fancy new page down key so I can find it a little more easily... like a braille thing or like the nibbit that Apple puts on the J and F keys...

    Below shows the Better Touch Tools screen - and how I mapped
    new Shortcut (key sequence Option (right)) to Assigned Action Option Down Arrow.

    At first I entered them in reverse from below and didn't think it worked. But once I put them in the right order it worked swimmingly!


    [​IMG]

    Here's how to buy it:
    https://sites.fastspring.com/boastr/product/bettertouchtool

    The developer just charges $6.50 with option to pay more.
    So I paid him/her $15.00 for my license and still feel like I'm being cheap.
    What an awesome tool!
     

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