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*!% pages auto save anyone!!!
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PAGES o PAGES
i am here to voice my disappointment about pages...if this post ever gets into the hands of the people who designed this software, my message to you: "no words are violent and insulting enough to express the hate i feel your you", you make a great program that at first seems way better then word, despite the face that it takes some getting used to, and then you dont include the auto save feature, a key and basic and essential ****ing feature, that save people from the feeling of pure dissapointment and anger that they feel when they loose work that is valueable in nature. if your face would be in front of me right now i would slap it to death.
For those unfortunate souls that are in the same possition as me i have no chance of seeing the work you spent hours doing again...my advice to you (foreversaveLT) install it and curse the people who designed Pages without autosave. i am so angry right now!!!!!!!!!!!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, WTF were they thinking no auto save!!!! no recovery!!!!!! what the...forget it, i hope those *******s have nightmares at night for the rest of their lives.
i am here to voice my disappointment about pages...if this post ever gets into the hands of the people who designed this software, my message to you: "no words are violent and insulting enough to express the hate i feel your you", you make a great program that at first seems way better then word, despite the face that it takes some getting used to, and then you dont include the auto save feature, a key and basic and essential ****ing feature, that save people from the feeling of pure dissapointment and anger that they feel when they loose work that is valueable in nature. if your face would be in front of me right now i would slap it to death.
For those unfortunate souls that are in the same possition as me i have no chance of seeing the work you spent hours doing again...my advice to you (foreversaveLT) install it and curse the people who designed Pages without autosave. i am so angry right now!!!!!!!!!!!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, WTF were they thinking no auto save!!!! no recovery!!!!!! what the...forget it, i hope those *******s have nightmares at night for the rest of their lives.
I think this might work for you. It's an Applescript app that automatically saves the current Pages document every 10 minutes. It's a background app so it won't appear in the dock, either. Just include it in your Login Items (under Accounts in System Preferences) and it'll run continuously as long as you're logged in.
Hope this helps!
Hope this helps!
No Auto Save
Whoever wrote the code for Pages has a serious case of rectal cranial inversion but not as much as the persons who approved it for release without auto save. Even textedit has it for Gods' sake! I mean this is really basic stuff. I unlearned command+S years ago, and now have to go back to that just to use a glossy Apple program? That there are automator tasks and other free software that fix this speaks volumes about the total and utter lameness of Pages when it comes to ease of use and efficiency. I don't dislike Microsoft that much that I won't go back to Words. In fact, I will from here on out.
Whoever wrote the code for Pages has a serious case of rectal cranial inversion but not as much as the persons who approved it for release without auto save. Even textedit has it for Gods' sake! I mean this is really basic stuff. I unlearned command+S years ago, and now have to go back to that just to use a glossy Apple program? That there are automator tasks and other free software that fix this speaks volumes about the total and utter lameness of Pages when it comes to ease of use and efficiency. I don't dislike Microsoft that much that I won't go back to Words. In fact, I will from here on out.
I know it's been a while since you posted this, but this method works incredibly well, and unlike your normal autosave in other programs, it prompts me to save documents that haven't yet been saved for the first time. I'd prefer Apple implement it directly, but particularly like that aspect of approaching the problem this way.
jW
Intelligence is not what is lacking (though it's obvious what you are lacking). I agree auto-save should not be absolutely necessary, but it is a convenience that is better to have than not to have. Computers, in fact, are merely a convenience that are better to have than not to have (in most situations). Obviously though, some people would be better off without computers. Perhaps in your case, maybe you'd just be better off without internet access.
jW
Eversave. Does what it says on the tin:
http://lifehacker.com/5135504/eversave-automatically-saves-your-work-on-a-regular-interval
http://lifehacker.com/5135504/eversave-automatically-saves-your-work-on-a-regular-interval
@Mal: I know
I was having the same problem after I wrote it. I modified the app to NOT try autosaving any document that hasn't already been saved to the disk. Also, I'm not sure if this was in the last edition but I included autosave for Numbers in the same app. Hope this helps!
P.S. Firefly rocks!
P.S. Firefly rocks!
Hmm, actually my comment was intend to say that I liked that, not that I wished it would not try to save things that hadn't yet been saved (I've worked on documents that ended up 20 pages long, forgetting to ever save them, and then lost them because the program crashed). You'd think I'd know better, but then again, these types of programs wouldn't exist if everyone always remembered to save properly.
jW
here you go
use this code on script editor it works save it as application and to"stay open" you can change minute between saves
property minutesBetweenSaves : 10
on run
launch application "Pages"
end run
on idle
tell application "Pages" to save (every document whose name is not "untitled")
return minutesBetweenSaves * 60
end idle
on quit
quit application "Pages"
continue quit
end quit
use this code on script editor it works save it as application and to"stay open" you can change minute between saves
property minutesBetweenSaves : 10
on run
launch application "Pages"
end run
on idle
tell application "Pages" to save (every document whose name is not "untitled")
return minutesBetweenSaves * 60
end idle
on quit
quit application "Pages"
continue quit
end quit
+1
I'm kind of glad they didn't include it only because working in IT I can tell you people using Microsoft Office rely on autosave all the time then come crying to me when they lost something and autosave either:
A. Didn't save it.
B. The temp file it saves to got corrupted and the user never had an actual save of the file.
C. Office locks up and it can't find the autosave.
No offense to the OP but never rely on autosave in any program.
This logic is mental. Why don't we all use command line instead of a GUI, why don't we all in fact code our own assembly language rather, or why not write it down on a piece of paper, that won't crash and lose 2 hours work...
Big Apple fan, iPad, iPhone, MBP, tv, bla, bla, bla. but there is no excusing this big fat glaring omission from their word processor. If TextEdit has it, why would Pages not? I just had a very rare OS crash, and lost an important document. Why didn't I save it, because I wasn't sure what to call it yet, or where to put it, or because I was busy... making the document!
I don't buy the argument that you should manually press ⌘S sporadically. How is that secure, regular backup? I have a mac because things work and it makes life easier, the lack of this feature does the opposite, and is a mistake by Apple that just cost me 2 hours.
I personally don't like autosave but to many people it's disruptive to their train of thought to think about saving every few minutes. I can understand that because when you are immersed in your project/book/data analysis or whatever you write it costs effort and focus to remember saving.
Therefore I think pages should have two autosave option: one that saves simply every X minutes and another one that creates a new version of a document every few minutes. The latter one would be very helpful if you edit documents and move/copy-paste-delete text blocks a lot.
my 2 cents.
Therefore I think pages should have two autosave option: one that saves simply every X minutes and another one that creates a new version of a document every few minutes. The latter one would be very helpful if you edit documents and move/copy-paste-delete text blocks a lot.
my 2 cents.
OK, so I believe that there should be an option to autosave any document (and I would just like to point out to all of you who are asking for it Lion will deliver it). That being said, if you have saved the document once and are running Time Machine you may have an hourly backup of your work.
Hourly backups don't cut it for me. The crash can come unexpectedly and at any time. Losing up to 59 minutes of work doesn't seem like a good solution. These days if I enter a contact on my phone, I expect to be able to find it on my computer almost instantaneously. Apple are working towards that kind of instant access with push notification etc, so 59 minutes is way too much to lose.
For anyone stumbling on this problem, ForeverSave LT is free and does the job, autosaves every minute, and helpfully (for my preference) reminds me to save soon after starting a document. Sadly if you are researching this it is probably too late.
It's still not a perfect solution though, as I don't want to lose previous saves that might be important if I make a mistake that I can't undo, or make a delayed decision to revert to a previous version (style change or something).
The best scenario would be to autosave regularly to myfile[autosave].pages, and leave myfile.pages alone creating a backup of the original file, as backup is good. Seems this could only be achieved simply by using *shudder* ms word (or basically every other word processor on the market).
I won't though, I will tolerate this like I tolerate many things in exchange for a nice interface and decent picture handling.
The new version of my document is actually probably a bit better having had a practice run at it, maybe Apple can start advertising the lack of autosave as a feature? benchmarks show documents written in Pages are 30% better and 80% faster than in other word processors (small print: the 2nd time).
For anyone stumbling on this problem, ForeverSave LT is free and does the job, autosaves every minute, and helpfully (for my preference) reminds me to save soon after starting a document. Sadly if you are researching this it is probably too late.
It's still not a perfect solution though, as I don't want to lose previous saves that might be important if I make a mistake that I can't undo, or make a delayed decision to revert to a previous version (style change or something).
The best scenario would be to autosave regularly to myfile[autosave].pages, and leave myfile.pages alone creating a backup of the original file, as backup is good. Seems this could only be achieved simply by using *shudder* ms word (or basically every other word processor on the market).
I won't though, I will tolerate this like I tolerate many things in exchange for a nice interface and decent picture handling.
The new version of my document is actually probably a bit better having had a practice run at it, maybe Apple can start advertising the lack of autosave as a feature? benchmarks show documents written in Pages are 30% better and 80% faster than in other word processors (small print: the 2nd time).
destiny
You are the king of your destiny. If you can't read the manual, and won't save your work, you get what you deserve. Did you want to save the most recent draft? Did you want to overwrite the previous one, or save that as a separate version? Pages respects you, as a writer. You have not learned to use your tool, however.
Word does not AutoSave; it AutoRecovers. This means that, in a period defined, in part, by you, and, in part by MS, some work that you didn't explicitly save will be recovered from a hidden file if Word can find it or, if you can locate it. Pages has several AppleScripts that can AutoSave (please search), and ForeverSave, a paid program, does both current backups and saves previous versions for all of your Mac programs.
Did you imagine Stephen King has this problem? If you use a tool, you are responsible for how it works. If you don't like Pages or Word, visit http://www.literatureandlatte.com/links.php. You're a writer? You should have known this and researched this already.
You are the king of your destiny. If you can't read the manual, and won't save your work, you get what you deserve. Did you want to save the most recent draft? Did you want to overwrite the previous one, or save that as a separate version? Pages respects you, as a writer. You have not learned to use your tool, however.
Word does not AutoSave; it AutoRecovers. This means that, in a period defined, in part, by you, and, in part by MS, some work that you didn't explicitly save will be recovered from a hidden file if Word can find it or, if you can locate it. Pages has several AppleScripts that can AutoSave (please search), and ForeverSave, a paid program, does both current backups and saves previous versions for all of your Mac programs.
Did you imagine Stephen King has this problem? If you use a tool, you are responsible for how it works. If you don't like Pages or Word, visit http://www.literatureandlatte.com/links.php. You're a writer? You should have known this and researched this already.
I wanted to compose my document, and then decide where to store it. You may like to work back to front and decide where the final destination is before it exists, but I like to make something and then put it where I think it belongs.
It would be a very simple feature in the settings of the application that I could turn on and you could turn off, to backup a document on a defined schedule to a temporary cache to help avoid data loss. It's been one of Apple's main drives in software development for years. Cloud data storage to prevent data loss, online contacts/mail/calendar syncing to prevent data loss, Time Machine to prevent data loss, Time Capsule to prevent data loss.
To omit an autosave function is limiting, and in my case, where the data loss was caused by an OS X crash, is in direct opposition to the philosophy of data protection, and will be fixed in a future update I'm sure, so hopefully you come back then to complain about how awful Apple are for including a system for backing up your work.
Nice link btw: visit http://www.literatureandlatte.com/links.php.
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I hope all those people so adamant that Apple were amazing for their innovative approach to autosave are now going to boycott the products and campaign for a return to an era when writers were free to hit ⌘-S every few minutes to prove they were really smart.
Well done apple, better late than never and generally better in general.
needs a lot more work before I can trust it
just started working on a document in pages (as I found earlier it auto saves straight from creating a new document)
pages crashed on me so had to force quit it
restarted, nothing, asks me what type of new document to create
so much for auto saving my work
just started working on a document in pages (as I found earlier it auto saves straight from creating a new document)
pages crashed on me so had to force quit it
restarted, nothing, asks me what type of new document to create
so much for auto saving my work
How do you know it didn't save. Did you try to find and open the document? Sounds to me like resume didn't work due to the crash. I bet that document in its last saved state is somewhere, it wouldn't have been deleted due to the crash.
brand new document, so hadnt been saved, autosave is supposed to take care
if i create a new document, dont save it, it opens automatically each time I open up pages, so remembers the document
pages crashed, document is gone
I am not overly bothered, should have saved it initially, but pages should have been able to recover this