Pairing the Apple watch with Android

[ianrip]

I have an company provided Android phone , its PIXAVI GRAVITY X camera, its intrinsically safe CSA Class 1, Zone 1, IECEx and ATEX Zone 1, explosion Proof, my job is kind of risky sometimes.

I hope that in 2-3 months I can use it with the Watch, but has anyone heard of an Android compatibility app, I know they’re making an IPhone version for android wear, so I hope they can do a vice versa app

 

[Flow39]

I have an company provided Android phone , its PIXAVI GRAVITY X camera, its intrinsically safe CSA Class 1, Zone 1, IECEx and ATEX Zone 1, explosion Proof, my job is kind of risky sometimes.

I hope that in 2-3 months I can use it with the Watch, but has anyone heard of an Android compatibility app, I know they’re making an IPhone version for android wear, so I hope they can do a vice versa app

I doubt they will ever make the Watch Android compatible. If you want to use Apple's stuff, you have to be in their walled garden.

 

[Aldaris]

Unfortunately I think it'll be iOS only. The leaked sales pitches all tie back to an iPhone.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

I thought the wishful thinking that Apple will give away >$1200 worth of gold in the Edition model for $999 was bad. This one takes the cake.

 

[rjlawrencejr]

Perhaps we will see it open up a couple years from now especially if a lot of hackers try to create software to make it compatible with Android. Isn't that the way the iPod took off?

 

[ianrip]

I’m sure some intelligent person (geek) will find a way to pair the watch with an android device, I’m hoping it’ll be done before end of 2015.

I don't think it has anything to do will an official Apple app for Android

PS
I have an Iphone 6+ for normal use

 

[Piggie]

Interesting question.

Apple, as of now has artificially limited it's own potential market.

The small percentage of customers, all around the world, that actually own a modern iPhone are, realistically the only people they can sell the watch to.

And yes, I know that is potentially millions, but there are vastly more millions of people out there who cannot be customers for the watch.

So, it will be interesting to see, if in time Apple wants to expand into the larger market.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

Interesting question.

Apple, as of now has artificially limited it's own potential market.

The small percentage of customers, all around the world, that actually own a modern iPhone are, realistically the only people they can sell the watch to.

And yes, I know that is potentially millions, but there are vastly more millions of people out there who cannot be customers for the watch.

So, it will be interesting to see, if in time Apple wants to expand into the larger market.

You're demonstrating a severe lack of understanding of Apple's ecosystem and business model.

 

[Julien]

I’m sure some intelligent person (geek) will find a way to pair the watch with an android device, I’m hoping it’ll be done before end of 2015.

I don't think it has anything to do will an official Apple app for Android

PS
I have an Iphone 6+ for normal use

Very doubtful you could write an App that spoofs the Watch into thinking it is paring with an iPhone for Android. iOS and Android are to well sandboxed for that. Also hardware differences are not easy to fool. Any software that could do this would likely violate Copyright too.

I would NOT buy an Watch in hopes for this unlikely scenario.

 

[leenak]

I imagine people will say that Apple will lose money due to this but more like people who like the ecosystem will buy further into it, like switch to an iPhone and buy an apple watch, if you are very dedicated. Or you have a Pebble (which I actually like in concept at least)

 

[Piggie]

You're demonstrating a severe lack of understanding of Apple's ecosystem and business model.

Oh, I'm fully aware of what they hope will happen.
And I'm sure there will be a percentage of people who may move to an iPhone due to the watch.

There are also people leaving iPhones to get Android phones all the time also.
Even in my workplace I know of 3 that have done that switch over and not gone back to Apple.

There is always some churn.

However, could can only covert so many over.
We will have to wait and see what their long term strategy is.

Ideal scenario is a watch that is not just an iPhone accessory, but a full product in it's own right, so anyone in the entire world can own one, irrespective of any other hardware they have.

 

[Vundu]

Yeah that will never happen.

 

[Piggie]

Yeah that will never happen.

Never is a long time my friend

That's like saying Apple won't go down as a company.
It probably will sometime.

Even the Romans didn't last & I suspect they felt pretty good at the time

Never is a long long time

 

[SuperCub]

I have an company provided Android phone , its PIXAVI GRAVITY X camera, its intrinsically safe CSA Class 1, Zone 1, IECEx and ATEX Zone 1, explosion Proof, my job is kind of risky sometimes.

I hope that in 2-3 months I can use it with the Watch, but has anyone heard of an Android compatibility app, I know they’re making an IPhone version for android wear, so I hope they can do a vice versa app

Do you think the NFL will introduce baseball bats to the game of football? I mean, they're both just games, and they exclude certain athletes from playing both...

 

[matt9013]

Interesting question.

Apple, as of now has artificially limited it's own potential market.

The small percentage of customers, all around the world, that actually own a modern iPhone are, realistically the only people they can sell the watch to.

And yes, I know that is potentially millions, but there are vastly more millions of people out there who cannot be customers for the watch.

So, it will be interesting to see, if in time Apple wants to expand into the larger market.

Exactly, Only making the Watch work with iPhones already kills a TON of customers from the get go. This isn't going to be a mass item based on just that. Apple needs to let non iPhone users in on the action if they really want to control the market and sell these like hotcakes.

As much as Apple wants to think iPhones rule the word, they don't. They may be the biggest selling phone but compared to people who don't have iPhones or just don't even like phones they limited there install base by a lot.

 

[Binarymix]

Very doubtful you could write an App that spoofs the Watch into thinking it is paring with an iPhone for Android. iOS and Android are to well sandboxed for that. Also hardware differences are not easy to fool. Any software that could do this would likely violate Copyright too.

I would NOT buy an Watch in hopes for this unlikely scenario.

If the watch gets jailbroken, it will most likely happen.

The reverse has already happened, with rooted android wear watches being able to connect with iPhones.

And copyright be damned. Hasn't stopped the jailbreaks yet.

 

[AngusW]

I don't think we'll see it opened up to android watches at least not fully opened up. Look at the Galaxy Gear series of watches from Samsung they're not available to use on an iPhone to their full potential.

 

[Julien]

If the watch gets jailbroken, it will most likely happen.

The reverse has already happened, with rooted android wear watches being able to connect with iPhones.

And copyright be damned. Hasn't stopped the jailbreaks yet.

Don't think it is possible to jailbreak it since it has no physical connection or way to manipulate the wOS. All system level communication is done exclusively through the Companion iPhone App.

 

[Piggie]

I don't think we'll see it opened up to android watches at least not fully opened up. Look at the Galaxy Gear series of watches from Samsung they're not available to use on an iPhone to their full potential.

Yes, but we are now at very very early days.

I'm thinking of 5 or 10 years down the line.
Apple is going to saturate potential customers at some point.

 

[Mad Mac Maniac]

Yeah that will never happen.

just like Apple would never put iTunes on Windows?

I could see Apple potentially using the Apple Watch as a "gateway drug" into the Apple ecosystem. Similar to how the to how the iPod/iPhone created the Halo effect for the Mac.

Of course it will never work as seamlessly with android as it does with iPhone, but I could see Apple allowing rudimentary bluetooth pairing features allowing notifications, internet use, and/ or voice.

I mean think about it, yes all of Apple's products provide an ecosystem which enhance the experience when used together, but I can't think of a single Apple product that requires other Apple products simply for basic functionality. The only thing I can think of is when iPod/iPhone required iTunes, but again that could be downloaded on windows.

 

[Binarymix]

Don't think it is possible to jailbreak it since it has no physical connection or way to manipulate the wOS. All system level communication is done exclusively through the Companion iPhone App.

So they couldn't hack the app to send a jailbreak?

 

[Julien]

So they couldn't hack the app to send a jailbreak?

Apps can only display actionable notifications. So no, not even close.

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

Don't think it is possible to jailbreak it since it has no physical connection or way to manipulate the wOS. All system level communication is done exclusively through the Companion iPhone App.

Don't underestimate what jailbreakers can do, but at least it won't be officially supported for Androids.

 

[virginblue4]

Apps can only display actionable notifications. So no, not even close.

But within the next 9 months, there will be native watch apps.

 

[Binarymix]

Apps can only display actionable notifications. So no, not even close.

Using the Official SDK.

If an iPhone is jailbroken, they may be able to send any kind of data to the Apple Watch, thereby jailbreaking the watch.

We'll see.

The walled garden has only lasted on one device so far, and that's the ATV 3.

Unless the whole S1 Chip is an encrypted enclave.

The device is going to need to be fed firmware updates somehow, which means it can and probably will be jailbroken, eventually.