Palm Pre: Big brother is watching...

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  1. Konz macrumors regular

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    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32409843/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/

    The parts I found most interesting:
    Just a heads up since people who are on the fence always seem to come to these forums...
     
  2. iphones4evry1 macrumors 65816

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    There have already been a few threads on this earlier in the week.

    It's really really really sad that Palm is violating the Constitutional rights of it's users. I feel sorry for the poor people. George Orwell would be very very disappointed.
     

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  3. Small White Car macrumors G4

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    There's some interesting stuff in all that, but this one is BS.

    Trust me, if the cops want to find you AT&T can, and will, tell them where your iPhone is, even if Location Services are turned off.
     
  4. Konz thread starter macrumors regular

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    lulz... MSNBC was slow on that one.

    Still, the bit about law enforcement use and information being subpoenaed is pretty sad.
     
  5. Konz thread starter macrumors regular

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    That's besides the point, because they can't do it retroactively if location services were off.

    The fact that they record your location and store that information means it could be accessed in the future by law enforcement if they were to subpoena it. What you're talking about is actively tracking someone, but this is more along the lines of proving where someone was in the past.

    Obviously if you're wanted badly enough by law enforcement they can probably track any cell phone these days.
     
  6. jav6454 macrumors P6

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    Palm may well be breaking the law because if they didn't say that in their contract, clearly its a violation of privacy to use the device to find out where you are.
     
  7. iphones4evry1 macrumors 65816

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    Any and every organization will turn over information to the authorities if you are running from the law, BUT that is not what this thread is about. This thread is about the fact that Palm is gathering Big Brother data on it's users even when law enforcement is not involved! :eek:
     
  8. kdarling macrumors demi-god

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    Yes, they absolutely can.

    Your phone services setting is meaningless, because ATT doesn't require your phone's knowledge or cpu assistance to locate you. It just needs to be on and connected to a tower.

    For E911, ATT uses their towers to triangulate your position. And they can record that information constantly, if they wish.
     
  9. Konz thread starter macrumors regular

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    Read the bold word again.

    Read.
    Think.
    Respond.

    Nowhere does it say they record that...
     

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