Dude, you got it wrong. Palm is the childish one here. They had an easy path to sync iTunes music, just like Blackberry did. But they chose to go about this like a petulant child.
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Palm Releases webOS 1.3.1, iTunes Media Sync Missing
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Dude, you got it wrong. Palm is the childish one here. They had an easy path to sync iTunes music, just like Blackberry did. But they chose to go about this like a petulant child.
they should giveup on itunes and use doubleTwist
they should giveup on itunes and use doubleTwist instead
http://www.doubletwist.com/dt/Home/Index.dt
playing cat-and-mouse with apple, they will always be one step behind, i say forget it and use a better alternative!
they should giveup on itunes and use doubleTwist instead
http://www.doubletwist.com/dt/Home/Index.dt
playing cat-and-mouse with apple, they will always be one step behind, i say forget it and use a better alternative!
USB IF can't actually stop anyone from using the USB protocol and interface on their hardware. They are a standards compliance body that licenses the logos and issues "official" vendor ID's.
From a regulatory position, they can only prevent a vendor from having an official vendor ID or revoke one if you don't keep up with the licensing fees or fall out of compliance. Inappropriate use of an official vendor ID is also violation of the license.
(An "official" vendor ID is not actually required when implementing the USB protocol, it just proves your device is compliant in the eyes of the USB IF)
They also control the licensing of the official USB logos. Vendors cannot use the USB logo on their products unless they pay the USB IF a license fee.
I am glad to see that this stupid game is hopefully over with.
LoL. Palm had it working, then Apple snatched it away. Sounds like they are both being babies. But I don't care about Palm or their devices.
The bigger picture here is Apple spends resources to prevent other devices to sync music. In other words it's another form of digital rights management, but instead of the music companies being in charge for each file, it's the messenger in charge with the program.
By definition, if they play a cat-and-mouse game with Apple they will sometimes be one step ahead and sometimes be one step behind. They were willing to play that game.
I absolutely love coming into these Pre threads to see the "FUD du jour."
iPhone screen res: 320 X 480
Pre scree res: 320 X 480
Considering that the iPhone's screen is physically larger, I'll let you do the math on which has easier to see pixels.
Apple just doesn't care about ALL of their iTune users
So Palm gives Apple free advertising and directs users of their devices to iTunes where Apple stands to make more profits and have a more dominate Music Store and Apple purposely blocks them? This is just dumb and makes me wonder why I bought an iPhone.
This would be like a city building a sports stadium and then not allowing out of city people to purchase tickets to games because they don't pay taxes in their city, never mind the fact that the person will be spending money on the tickets as well as concessions. To prevent this they check your drivers license at the stadium blocking you from getting in if your from out of town.
Why should Palm have to make a new music store? That isn't their business. I'm glad companies like IBM are out there and actively work with their competitors to make their competitors products compatible with their own because they know in the long run it makes them look good as well as they are still bringing in revenue for whatever IBM product is required by a competitor's product.
So Palm gives Apple free advertising and directs users of their devices to iTunes where Apple stands to make more profits and have a more dominate Music Store and Apple purposely blocks them? This is just dumb and makes me wonder why I bought an iPhone.
This would be like a city building a sports stadium and then not allowing out of city people to purchase tickets to games because they don't pay taxes in their city, never mind the fact that the person will be spending money on the tickets as well as concessions. To prevent this they check your drivers license at the stadium blocking you from getting in if your from out of town.
Why should Palm have to make a new music store? That isn't their business. I'm glad companies like IBM are out there and actively work with their competitors to make their competitors products compatible with their own because they know in the long run it makes them look good as well as they are still bringing in revenue for whatever IBM product is required by a competitor's product.
I can count the pixels on an iPod Touch and on my iPod nano (see sig.)...
If it's not in the same category then why are you comparing it?
But I do agree that iPhone blows it out of the water...
Now only if i could sync a Driod with iTunes......
Apple is the next Wal-Mart. Conquer and destroy all the competition!
Good job Apple!
Yeah right I guess they should let competitors leech of their hard work.
LOL this is the same crap we heard when the Palm Pre was released and it has now faded into oblivion and being replaced as the iphone killer by the Droid meanwhile the iphone is still standing. I give the Droid 3 months before its replaced, the Pre even had more hype.
If so, easy ground for termination of contract.
This sentiment tells me that you don't really understand what Apple is doing and how they have positioned their business model.
This one too. Anyone thinking this is out of spite our pettiness should try to follow the dollars a little more closely.
Seriously...some people around here are nuts...the Pre is a nice device with a unique feature set. Just because it isn't an Apple product does mean people are idiots for buying one. Trying one in a store when you are so clearly biased against it isn't really going to give you much perspective...
When your entire business is based upon the integrated hardware/software model, then yes, it really is a big deal.
Well I never said it was out of spite or pettiness. I said it was dumb. Apple has to realize that they have customers of their iTunes product but not their iPhone/iPod products. If they don't then they are dropping the bomb on their customer's experience with purchasing and syncing music through iTunes.
Apple has built a product in iTunes that its competitors shouldn't be viewed as non Apple hardware products but OTHER music stores. To do that sometimes you just need to play nice with your competitors of other divisions of your companies.
I'm not saying they should be forced to do it one way or the other however you can draw parallels to Microsoft Operating system and Microsoft Web Browser. Why should Microsoft Operating system have to play nice with non Microsoft web browsers? It shouldn't. However they are doing their customers of their OS a disservice if they don't play nice with these 3rd party web browsers like when they did a long time ago.
Now Apple just needs to realize that it is impossible to get a 100% market share in any one market, ie cell phone market. It's just not going to happen with the way the market is setup and the competition out there. Once they realize that they can start understanding that instead of fighting for customers they can't get they could grow their iTunes Music Store business through users that otherwise might not of used iTunes if they didn't have a device compatible with it.
I never bought a single song off of iTunes before getting the iPhone. The reason I used iTunes for the first time was because my phone synced up directly to iTunes. Had I not got pissed at Sprint and finally left I probably would of got a Palm Pre. And you know what? I would of been buying my first songs from iTunes with a Palm Pre if that device works with it well.
You mean the most recent iPhone knockoff that went virtually unnoticed on its release day?
It's STILL all about the iPhone. Now more than ever, in fact.
Droid: Another "iPhone killer" to throw onto the ever-growing pile of also-rans.
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You have it totally wrong. Palm hacked their way in by masquerading as an iPod. Apple in-turn adjusted their protocols to more accurately identify what device is trying to communicate with iTunes. As iTunes is only meant to sync with certain devices, this is what they should have done.
Also, Apple has created an easy path for any player to sync iTunes music. All palm needs to do is write a simple program to read the iTunes xml file. Done. Blackberry could do it, why can't they?