Palmguard on the 15" Touchbar rMBP is it required ?

[vish26]

Hi Guys,

I would like to know and I am worried, is it possible that with continuous usage and resting my palm on the palm rest area on the 15" Touch Bar rMBP it might wear off some colour because of continuously keeping, resting my hands on the Palm Rest area ? can the aluminium coating come off with usage ? it has happened in the past and that is why companies like Moshi would sell it in the past for the earlier models of the 15" rMBP. So do you guys think I should put a palm guard there ? is it needed ?

I am also just curious to know if any of you guys use a Palmguard and a Trackpad protector from any of the 3M stickers ebayers in China and Hongkong ? how are they in quality ? Do they leave any residue after removing ?

 

[708692]

It's a solid block of aluminium surely ? It's not a coating that can wear off.

 

[mfram]

It may be solid aluminum but it does have that anodized coating on it. If the coating gets worn, it's gonna look funny but still be functional. I have not had any issues with the coating wearing on my 2015 13" rMBP nor any MBP I've owned in the past.

 

[vish26]

So is a palm guard required on it or no ? Will there be any marks or stains after constantly keeping my hands on the Palm Rest area ? Will the colour of that area wear off ?

Why do you guys think accessory making company Moshi was making a Palm guard for the earlier model of the 15" rMBP !

 

[KGB7]

If you worried that much than get one. It's a small price to pay for a long term investment.

 

[New_Mac_Smell]

So is a palm guard required on it or no ? Will there be any marks or stains after constantly keeping my hands on the Palm Rest area ? Will the colour of that area wear off ?

Hmm it really depends. If you worked in a chemical factory producing commercial grade oven cleaner and were careless with gloves, and had particularly hairy hands to the degree of a wire brush. Then yes, a palm guard may be a good idea.

In all seriousness though it's anodised aluminium, not grey paint. If by chance you did manage to wear off that layer then please consult a doctor as you're sweating acid.

Why do you guys think accessory making company Moshi was making a Palm guard for the earlier model of the 15" rMBP !

Because there's always that one person, you know, the one with the USB fan laptop riser thing.

 

[maerz001]

No

So is a palm guard required on it or no ? Will there be any marks or stains after constantly keeping my hands on the Palm Rest area ? Will the colour of that area wear off ?

Why do you guys think accessory making company Moshi was making a Palm guard for the earlier model of the 15" rMBP !

not required. There is no problem with the coating.
Why they sell this? Cos there are too many stupid people out there buying unnecessary things

 

[augustya]

I have seen the coating or colour or whatever you wanna call it I have seen the Palmrest area of the rMBP getting lighter with constantly resting your hands on that area and one guy had also here online put pictures of the same problem ! So it can happen !

 

[New_Mac_Smell]

I have seen the coating or colour or whatever you wanna call it I have seen the Palmrest area of the rMBP getting lighter with constantly resting your hands on that area and one guy had also here online put pictures of the same problem ! So it can happen !

Can you provide those pictures or any picture to back that up?

 

[augustya]

Can you provide those pictures or any picture to back that up?

Well I regularly come here since 2012 I remember seeing those pictures in I think 2012 or 2013 I don't have it right now with me !

 

[meteoreos]

Can you provide those pictures or any picture to back that up?

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/moshi-deserves-some-love.2024248/

 

[augustya]

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/moshi-deserves-some-love.2024248/

Wunderbar ! (If you know Deutsche) fantastic job ! That is what I mean, this should pour in some good comments and people will understand what I mean ! To the OP aswell your question now is a million dollar one !

 

[New_Mac_Smell]

Well I regularly come here since 2012 I remember seeing those pictures in I think 2012 or 2013 I don't have it right now with me !

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/moshi-deserves-some-love.2024248/

I'm assuming this is the one you're referring to @augustya.

Hmm well I can say I have never seen anything like that before, and the understanding of how that could be possible has bemused me. So I did a little research.

Firstly, that image would appear to be taken from here https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/144146/macbook-air-aluminum-wearout. And it states "Macbook Air after 1 year of (heavy) usage". I would have thought this would be a far more serious concern if it's happening in such a short timeframe. Even heavy usage it would be quite a feat to wear off the coating using only your hands, I'm trying to think how it would be possible. If you never cleaned it I don't think it would do it. What I suspect is a more likely scenario, is that this individual has had some kind of skin on their computer, and after a year of use the glue or plastic has caused that onto the shell. That to me seems far more likely, but I'm happy for others to take a look at that thread and try give an intelligent answer.

As to that post itself https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/moshi-deserves-some-love.2024248, it did seem a little odd and raised an eyebrow. Looking at the users thread history raises the other eyebrow however.

Personally I would approach that with the largest skepticism stick you can muster up.

Lastly, it's worth noting Apple's official line on the matter of palm rests https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT203671.

Hopefully that's useful. If anyone else can find images of worn aluminium from purely hand usage I'd be interested in them.

 

[Fishrrman]

Heh… just like we saw "Staingate" (for the flaking of the thin coating on retina displays), I'm wondering if -- two or three years down the road -- we could see "PalmGate". The discoloration and flaking that happens from extended contact of sweaty palms on the oversized trackpad of the new MacBook Pros.

You read it here first!

 

[New_Mac_Smell]

Heh… just like we saw "Staingate" (for the flaking of the thin coating on retina displays), I'm wondering if -- two or three years down the road -- we could see "PalmGate". The discoloration and flaking that happens from extended contact of sweaty palms on the oversized trackpad of the new MacBook Pros.

You read it here first!

They've been making them out of aluminium since 2008. I think we'd of seen it several years by now if anything.

 

[vish26]

Whoa ! Whoa ! This picture is making me all worked up and anxious ! Phew !!!

 

[leman]

If you are sweating some sort of acid, sure, go get a palmguard. The rest of average humanity will most likely be ok. Don't forget though that palm guards are likely to damage your laptop.

That picture: never seen anything like that before and I run IT in a large group full of heavy laptop users.

 

[KGB7]

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/moshi-deserves-some-love.2024248/

I see poor hygiene and possibly an issue with glands that produce too much sweat.

My 2012 Dell Inspiron, that has anodized aluminum still looks new. Wash your hands 5 times a day and don't be a slob.

 

[New_Mac_Smell]

If you are sweating some sort of acid, sure, go get a palmrest. The rest of average humanity will most likely be ok.

That picture: never seen anything like that before and I run IT in a large group full of heavy laptop users.

But have you noticed this shifty looking character in cubicle 4B?

 

[vish26]

That picture: never seen anything like that before and I run IT in a large group full of heavy laptop users.

And none of the users with any of the brand's laptop have this kind of warring of the Palmrest area ?

 

[New_Mac_Smell]

Whoa ! Whoa ! This picture is making me all worked up and anxious ! Phew !!!

Again, I'm reasonably certain that is caused by a sticker or stuck on palm rest. It would explain the oddity as well as the lines around the edge of each defect. That is usually caused by something such as a sticker. I have never seen anything like it before, and could not find any other examples of it. When something can be disproven it usually means it's not true, unless one can gather more evidence of the fact. Which I have attempted to do out of curiosity and have been unable to. So you can take that single image as 'proof' if you like, but bear in mind I can find millions of images that prove the opposite; as well as common sense and logic.

Note that Apple suggest you do not put anything on there, and you would likely struggle to get a warranty repair if it scratched or caused issues to the screen. If you do want to use a palm rest it's entirely up to you, but if you do just understand that you're increasing the likelihood of damage.

 

[leman]

And none of the users with any of the brand's laptop have this kind of warring of the Palmrest area ?

The last time I've seen this kind of discolouration was in the plastic MacBook era. People have scratches, bumps, there are also occasions of coating damages here and there, but nothing restricted to the palmrest area.
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But have you noticed this shifty looking character in cubicle 4B?

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Yeah, we are working hard on firing him but that dude has some friends in high places...

 

[meteoreos]

I see poor hygiene and possibly an issue with glands that produce too much sweat.

My 2012 Dell Inspiron, that has anodized aluminum still looks new. Wash your hands 5 times a day and don't be a slob.

Agreed.

There's no need to be worried unless your hands are greasy as hell. Plus, as someone already stated, Apple doesn't recommend you put one on regardless as it could potentially damage your display.

 

[vish26]

Again, I'm reasonably certain that is caused by a sticker or stuck on palm rest. It would explain the oddity as well as the lines around the edge of each defect. That is usually caused by something such as a sticker. I have never seen anything like it before, and could not find any other examples of it. When something can be disproven it usually means it's not true, unless one can gather more evidence of the fact. Which I have attempted to do out of curiosity and have been unable to. So you can take that single image as 'proof' if you like, but bear in mind I can find millions of images that prove the opposite; as well as common sense and logic.

Note that Apple suggest you do not put anything on there, and you would likely struggle to get a warranty repair if it scratched or caused issues to the screen. If you do want to use a palm rest it's entirely up to you, but if you do just understand that you're increasing the likelihood of damage.

So you are saying I am more likely to cause damage by putting the Palmfuard then not putting it. I should not put it ? That's what you are suggesting ?

 

[New_Mac_Smell]

So you are saying I am more likely to cause damage by putting the Palmfuard then not putting it. I should not put it ? That's what you are suggesting ?

I already posted this, don't take my word for it as I'm just a random person on the inter webs. Take it from Apple directly https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT203671. Or from Cult of Mac here http://www.cultofmac.com/193762/app...-using-palm-rests-on-your-retina-macbook-pro/.

The best thing to do is just keep it clean. And that does not mean you need to wipe it each and every hour, just don't let gunk built up for months on end.