Pandora CFO Sees iTunes Radio as 'Credible Threat', Calls iTunes 'Detrimental' to Music Industry

[newyorkone]

iTunes and the iPod were detrimental to the music biz. They introduced the mp3 to the masses, and as a result, introduced music pirating to the masses.

That's not to fault Apple. They did their job and made a ton of the money. This is just an example of the ills of technology, but the benefits greatly outweighed the bad. The record biz had their decades of raping the consumer and the balance finally shifted.

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Really? Exactly how were people obtaining and listening to music before iTunes? Radio? MP3s were just being downloaded by a select population of the internet, to mainly just listen to on their computers since MP3 players weren't really available.

Yes, really.

"In the second half of '90s, MP3 files began to spread on the Internet. The popularity of MP3s began to rise rapidly with the advent of Nullsoft's audio player Winamp, released in 1997. In 1998, the first portable solid state digital audio player MPMan, developed by SaeHan Information Systems which is headquartered in Seoul, South Korea, was released and the Rio PMP300 was sold afterwards in 1998, despite legal suppression efforts by the RIAA." Source Wikipedia.

The first version of iTunes came out in 2001.

You should really try using the INTERNET and a SEARCH ENGINE before you try to state something that is pure fiction as fact.

 

[kas23]

Yes, really.
You should really try using the INTERNET and a SEARCH ENGINE before you try to state something that is pure fiction as fact.

How IRONIC you would write this and then quote WIKIPEDIA as some sort of FACT. Tell me, how many of those Rio's were sold compared to iPods? And just how "popular" was Winamp (Wiki's full of hyperbole)? How many downloads compared to PC's? You need something more than cutting and pasting from Wikipedia. Write me back when you have something intelligent to say.

 

[Menel]

How IRONIC you would write this and then quote WIKIPEDIA as some sort of FACT. Tell me, how many of those Rio's were sold compared to iPods? And just how "popular" was Winamp (Wiki's full of hyperbole)? How many downloads compared to PC's? You need something more than cutting and pasting from Wikipedia. Write me back when you have something intelligent to say.

Having a hard time?

Don't like Wiki, how about TIME?

"Apple's iPod was not the first portable MP3 player. Diamond Multimedia's Rio PMP300 wasn't either — it was the third — but it's widely regarded as the first commercially successful one. Released in 1998."

How many were sold? Irrelevant...
Rios = an actual profitable number
IPods = zero, did not exist

 

[kas23]

Having a hard time?

Don't like Wiki, how about TIME?

"Apple's iPod was not the first portable MP3 player. Diamond Multimedia's Rio PMP300 wasn't either — it was the third — but it's widely regarded as the first commercially successful one. Released in 1998."

How many were sold? Irrelevant...
Rios = an actual profitable number
IPods = zero, did not exist

Congrats, you've proved mp3s and their players existed before the iPod. But, sorry, I'm not saying MP3 players didn't exist before the iPod. I never once said that. But at that time, it was a fledgling market at best. So, the influence of MP3 players on music piracy was minuscule compared to what happened when the iPod became popular. That's what I originally said and am still saying. I think you're the one having a hard time.

 

[larrylaffer]

I think it's worth mentioning that most artists think Pandora and Spotify are especially detrimental to the music industry.

 

[Menel]

Congrats, you've proved mp3s and their players existed before the iPod. But, sorry, I'm not saying MP3 players didn't exist before the iPod. I never once said that. But at that time, it was a fledgling market at best. So, the influence of MP3 players on music piracy was minuscule compared to what happened when the iPod became popular. That's what I originally said and am still saying. I think you're the one having a hard time.

You say 'fledgling', TIME and says 'successful'. Hmmm. Think Ill continue to stick with my memory backed by credible publication.

iTunes and the iPod were detrimental to the music biz. They introduced the mp3 to the masses, and as a result, introduced music pirating to the masses. ....

... since MP3 players weren't really available.

1. Napster introduced pirating to the masses. iTunes introduced a legitimate market.
2. They were. And already 'successful'

 

[afsnyder]

In the US, more than half of the smartphones are iPhones. I think a majority of those people will be using iTunes Radio instead of Pandora on their iPhones (all the people I know are). That's much more than a 2% lose for Pandora. You will never see iTunes Radio on Android. They are welcome to keep Pandora .

Note: Windows does support iTunes Radio.

Isn't iTunes radio built into iTunes. Isn't iTunes available on Windows?

 

[sarahzohar88]

yes ! iTunes Radio has much better music selection algorithms.