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Panther 7B28 Details

Thanks for posting the name of the artist, I've alway wanted to know, because its pretty darn cool. The WWDC release has it, and since X .0 had it, I don't see why they would change it for this release.

Panther is really cool and fast. Expose runs nicely on my 900 ibook. I know a bunch of geeks that thought genie minimize was insane, imagine there expression to Expose. I just wish there were mouse gestures.

The speed difference to me is so different that I can't stand booting into Jag. I've noticed this especially in MOHAA Spearhead, unfortunately, its not as stable as Jag quite yet.

I'm gonna have to buy this one.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Welcome registration

Originally posted by julzmon
It's definitely an Air song.

I don't know where you got the K&D idea.

Unless it was a joke :)

Have a listen for your self. It's on the Moon Safari album.
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eh.. seems like you should listen again.

its called "sofa rockers" and you can find it on "k&d sessions".
 
Re: 7B28

Originally posted by jaedreth
Keep in mind what the B in 7B28 means.

Beta.

But then again, if it were *almost* done, as in ship in a few weeks, it would be 7FC17 (or something like that... Final Candidate)...

So no, Panther is not imminent yet.

Jaedreth
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No, B just means it's on the second branch since they started 7 builds. 10.2.6 is 6L60. WTF would L stand for?
 
How well will Expose run on these specs:

G3 700
640MB Ram
16MB ATI video card

BTW how do I tell what model of video card I have?
 
Re: 7B28

Originally posted by jaedreth
Keep in mind what the B in 7B28 means.

Beta.

But then again, if it were *almost* done, as in ship in a few weeks, it would be 7FC17 (or something like that... Final Candidate)...

So no, Panther is not imminent yet.

Jaedreth
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I guess that's why 10.2.0 was 6C115. And, of course, that's why:

10.2.1 = 6D52
10.2.2 = ??? (can't find it anywhere)
10.2.3 = 6G30
10.2.4 = 6I32
10.2.5 = 6L29
10.2.6 = 6L60, and
10.2.7 = 6R34.

My point is, there's no hard rule for the letters, other than there's only one.

Note that 6C115, aka 10.2.0, was posted as a developer seed on ADC on August 1st,2002. The same release was shipped to the public as GM on August 23th, 2002.
 
Originally posted by Powerbook G5
I cannot wait for Panther to be out almost as much as I cannot wait for a new PowerBook. By the time they do release the new PowerBooks, Pather will be preinstalled from the look of things. That'd save me $80 in the education discout of upgrading later, so perhaps there is an upside to PowerBooks being so delayed. :)
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Are you me?

I too am waiting for the planets to come into alignment: the new powerbooks and panther packaged together. All on educational discount :)
 
Argh, another 48 hours until my Panther 7B28 download finishes... downloading it at 8k/sec isn't fun... oh well, 7B21 will have to do for the time being... let's hope 7B28 has some bug fixes...

BTW in 7B21, Exposé has changed from the original WWDC Panther seed: when you want to see the desktop and move the windows out of the way they'll still be visible in a 15-pixel border around the screen and under the menu bar, and when clicked it restores the windows to their original positions... very cool!

-Dr. D.
 
Aren't using these developer seeds going to take the fun out of it when 10.3 is really released?
 
well, the whole purpose of seeds is for apple to be able to find bugs easier, and so then developers can have thier apps tweaked for it when it comes out.
 
Originally posted by Dr. Distortion
Argh, another 48 hours until my Panther 7B28 download finishes... downloading it at 8k/sec isn't fun... oh well, 7B21 will have to do for the time being... let's hope 7B28 has some bug fixes...

BTW in 7B21, Exposé has changed from the original WWDC Panther seed: when you want to see the desktop and move the windows out of the way they'll still be visible in a 15-pixel border around the screen and under the menu bar, and when clicked it restores the windows to their original positions... very cool!

-Dr. D.
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Yeh, I'm glad I caught it early last night and this AM. I was trying to get the DevCD this afternoon, and the ftp session kept dropping after getting a segment or two.
 
Originally posted by pagemap
How well will Expose run on these specs:

G3 700
640MB Ram
16MB ATI video card

BTW how do I tell what model of video card I have?
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I don't know how well Expose will run, but your graphics card sounds like a Rage 128 Ultra which shipped with the last revisions of the CRT iMac.

You can see what type of card you have in the System Profiler.
 
7B28 on top of 7B21

Well I installed 7B21 on top of WWDC DP the installation stuck at some point and I had to do a clean install. Anyone that upgraded their 7B21 to 7B28 and had problems? or is it safer this time around?I have backups just too lazy to do a clean install... thanks
 
Ok, there is a stupid feature of the current OS (I'm using 10.2.3) that I really hope has either been fixed in Panther or maybe in an update I have not yet installed (driver issues with clunky old scsi gear) or is just somehow due to my setup.

I am in a finder window in list view. I create a new folder. It highlights the folder but DOESN'T automatically allow me to start typing in a name for the folder, like it does in Icon view.

Tell me this is fixed.

And if I have just been making some simple error, there will be 50 brownie points awarded for the best flame!
;)
 
Originally posted by mvc
Ok, there is a stupid feature of the current OS (I'm using 10.2.3) that I really hope has either been fixed in Panther or maybe in an update I have not yet installed (driver issues with clunky old scsi gear) or is just somehow due to my setup.

I am in a finder window in list view. I create a new folder. It highlights the folder but DOESN'T automatically allow me to start typing in a name for the folder, like it does in Icon view.

Tell me this is fixed.

And if I have just been making some simple error, there will be 50 brownie points awarded for the best flame!
;)
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It works that way whenever you create a new folder it doesn't matter the view. No problem though. If you want to change the name while the icon is still selected hit the enter key and then you can type the new name.
 
Originally posted by MacBandit
It works that way whenever you create a new folder it doesn't matter the view.
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Thanks for that work around Mac Bandit, but I do find that it automatically goes into name typing mode in Icon view and Column View, but doesn't in List view, which is the view I use most. Could it be something in my prefs? Or is it the 10.2.3 thing?

The other little "feature" that is odd and certainly different from OS9 as far as I remember, is that if I have a folder open and selected in a list view say 3 levels deep, I create a new folder, it lands at the top level, not inside the selected folder.

In OS 9 it would land inside the nested folder as I remember, which is where you would want it. In column view this works correctly.
 
Originally posted by mvc
Thanks for that work around Mac Bandit, but I do find that it automatically goes into name typing mode in Icon view and Column View, but doesn't in List view, which is the view I use most. Could it be something in my prefs? Or is it the 10.2.3 thing?

The other little "feature" that is odd and certainly different from OS9 as far as I remember, is that if I have a folder open and selected in a list view say 3 levels deep, I create a new folder, it lands at the top level, not inside the selected folder.

In OS 9 it would land inside the nested folder as I remember, which is where you would want it. In column view this works correctly.
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Ah, you are correct on it working the way it SHOULD in icon view. For some reason I don't remember it working that way. Oh, well.

Yes, in list view the folder doesn't go where it should. I think the simple fact that creating a folder in icon view gives you a different result then in column view shows that the system is still immature and hasn't had all parts of it standardized yet. I look at these as niggling little problems that will go away in the near future.
 
Originally posted by mvc
I am in a finder window in list view. I create a new folder. It highlights the folder but DOESN'T automatically allow me to start typing in a name for the folder, like it does in Icon view.

Tell me this is fixed.
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In a word: No. It hasn't been fixed. I've felt the pain of this "bug" too. Perhaps you should report it to Apple using bug reporter and see what comes of it (you'll have to be an ADC members, but free members get access to this functionality too).
 
Originally posted by henryblackman
In a word: No. It hasn't been fixed. I've felt the pain of this "bug" too.
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So you are saying its still not fixed in Panther?

If thats the case I think I will have a little whinge at Apple before its too late (like they will listen to me - MVC Saves the Apple universe with timely bug report - Bill Gates resigns in shock )

They used to be hot for usabilty, these days it sometimes seems its all skindeep. But hey, OSX's bones are right, and you couldn't say that about OS9.
 
Originally posted by mvc
So you are saying its still not fixed in Panther?
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That's what I'm saying. To be fair though, I can well imagine that if QA doesn't use any other view except icon view (the default) they might well miss it. On the other hand, perhaps there is a reason why it doesn't work this way. Like how Finder only seems to have one thread when opening folders on a network disk :-(
 
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