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Panther Screenshots, Benchmarks, Details
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I really dislike the new finder.
Ugly metal look and useless borders. Not sure about that left column in every finder window. I keep those things on my desktop. Seems more natural to me. Need an option to completely hide that column (without visible divider line).
Exposé is quite nice, though.
Mouse is still to slow. Dock preferences still don't show the option to pin it down to a corner. (I know there are tools out there to fix this - I'm using them; but I think these are things that should be addressed by apple.)
And found two bugs in about five minutes. Back to 10.2.6 - oh well.
They still have some work to do if they expect me to shell out 129 bucks for this.
(And, no, I'm not going to buy a new G5, since I got a Dual 1.25 MDD not too long ago. :-})
bye. Andreas.
The iChat thing:
I was able to log in with two .mac accounts on two separate Users.
I was also able to send messages to each other, and the other user's notification (the inactive user) beeped!
So it seems that you can indeed use iChat on different accounts.
But maybe you guys mean logging in the same .mac account for different users?
I was able to log in with two .mac accounts on two separate Users.
I was also able to send messages to each other, and the other user's notification (the inactive user) beeped!
So it seems that you can indeed use iChat on different accounts.
But maybe you guys mean logging in the same .mac account for different users?
for those of you who are complaining about the left column in the finder, it CAN be hidden the same way you hide the preview of the mail in Mail, except it's a vertical bar. oh, and labels work nicely in finder's columns view too.
I've obtained a copy of the WWDC version of Panther. I have two .img files and when I mount them, I get an OSX installer (like Jag) and a bunch of files. If I try to copy these file to CD so that I can boot from the CD and install Panther, the files don't all copy and I lose the "Install Mac OS X" icon. Can someone please help me to use the .img file "Mac OS X Install Disc 1" to install the developer preview? FWIW, I fully intend to pop the $129 as soon as Panther GM is released and the computer I'm installing it on is an iBook 600 Combo that I almost never use, so it's just to see what the new OS is all about. Thanks in advance!
jayscheuerle
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OSX is appearing to be a $129/yr subscription service. Add mac.com and it's $229/yr to run your Mac with all the features (not including broadband service, which you need to utilize .Mac in any practical way).
$19/month...
I'm very interested in seeing how well a Virtual PC runs on a 64 bit dual G5... Could be fantastic.
$19/month...
I'm very interested in seeing how well a Virtual PC runs on a 64 bit dual G5... Could be fantastic.
It's not a subscription if your current OX.x keeps running as is.
It would be a subscription if you HAD to pay every month/year to keep using what you had. Like those other online music places.
That's almost exactly what my wife said when I showed her the screenshots--"it looks just like Windows." The little window that pops up when you Command-Tab to switch applications in Panther has been in Windows since Win95. The little pane in the open/save dialogs for favorites is another Windows GUI element creeping into OS X. I sure as hell wouldn't call them "innovative", but like all corporations Apple runs on plenty of spin. I'll pass on blowing $129 on Panther as well--I love the way my Mac works now and I'm not dying to have anything Steve showed in the preview.
I was disappointed with Expose, I spend a lot of time in text editors and thumbnailed text files all look the same. I'd honestly rather have a Windows-like taskbar with all open windows on it and the old Apple menu back than either Expose or the Dock.
Maybe I'm missing something, but some people's criticisms dont come across as particularly "helpful". Its like 6 months till launch day, the whole of Apple's software development being is going to be sweating blood for 6 months to get Panther as spectacular as it can be, and some folks are a) saying they should be doing that for the price of a pair of good jeans; or b) judging Panther beta as though its coming out tomorrow and Steve Jobs is going to go to their house with a gun saying gimme $129 or else you can no longer enjoy your Mac.
If the benchmarks are worth anything, Apple have just extended the life of most of our Macs by developing a faster OS and added some pretty nifty things to make the boys go wow. So its either stick with a reliable Jaguar, or spend $129 to get a zippier user experience - or get a new computer for a totally mind blowing jump in performance. As someone with a 6 month old Ti Powerbook, which I was told was way to good for most of the people owning it, me included, $129 sounds like a great deal to tie me into Apple for another year.
If the benchmarks are worth anything, Apple have just extended the life of most of our Macs by developing a faster OS and added some pretty nifty things to make the boys go wow. So its either stick with a reliable Jaguar, or spend $129 to get a zippier user experience - or get a new computer for a totally mind blowing jump in performance. As someone with a 6 month old Ti Powerbook, which I was told was way to good for most of the people owning it, me included, $129 sounds like a great deal to tie me into Apple for another year.
Just think, you could be on the MS Windows release cycle of one new must-have OS release every three years or so. That would bring your cost down to under $12/mo, most of which is .mac. Still ... I can't say as I'd consider that a Good Thing.
What if for $41/mo you could get legitimate access to the current and pre-release copies of OSX (even server), access to Apple labs in Cupertino, Bejing, and Tokyo to play with the latest goodies, development seeds of the nice new apps (like Safari was), and a 20% discount on the new Apple system of your choice once per year? If you do a lot of Apple buys, or just want the inside scoop, the ADC Select program may be for you.
If you actually want to go to next year's WWDC, check out the Premier package. It would cost about $2000 after deducting the cost of the (included) WWDC pass, and also gets you 10 hardware discounts at the Apple Developer Store. Not a bad deal, and almost a no-brainer if you want to buy anything expensive, like an Xserve RAID.
-Richard
edit: The last link won't work, it seems that you have to go here and click on the ADC hardware purchase program banner.
Richard, I have been considering doing just that (the Select membership). It seems like it would virtually pay for itself after 2 years, especially if you can take it as a business deduction, which I can. You don't get the hardware discount with Select until you renew for the second year. However, you get 5 software seed keys, which you can transfer to other ADC members. I was wondering if it's legal to share a Select membership with other people who are just online ADC members (the free catagory)? If it's legal, then a person could pay for the Select membership and then sell off the extra sw seed keys for, say, $75 - $100, which is cheaper than the $129 for an OS X upgrade. Does that work?
Wow!!! I finally got Panther installed on my iBook and the difference in performance is incredible. GUI response is completely amazing...it feels like I bumped up several hundred MHz. My iBook is a 600 MHz Combo model with the clunky 8MB video card, so I'm not even using QE.
With Panther, the UI feels much better than even my 17" iMac 800 G4 running Jag. I'm really blown away with the difference there is. Snappiness is just great. Resizing windows still leaves something to be desired, but it's a major improvement nonetheless.
Mail is worlds faster than it used to be and so is Sherlock. The movie section of Sherlock in particular is just really speedy now. Window scrolling is improved throughout Panther.
I like the new Finder, but I wish that when you just opened up a folder on the desktop that it didn't give you a new Finder window. I'd like it set up so that the metal Finder thing only comes up when you click on an optical drive.
Expose is cool. Internet Connect is much improved. So far I'm very very impressed, and this is just the first version of a beta! I'm anxious for the GM; I will gladly hand Apple my $129 for this increase in UI snappiness.
With Panther, the UI feels much better than even my 17" iMac 800 G4 running Jag. I'm really blown away with the difference there is. Snappiness is just great. Resizing windows still leaves something to be desired, but it's a major improvement nonetheless.
Mail is worlds faster than it used to be and so is Sherlock. The movie section of Sherlock in particular is just really speedy now. Window scrolling is improved throughout Panther.
I like the new Finder, but I wish that when you just opened up a folder on the desktop that it didn't give you a new Finder window. I'd like it set up so that the metal Finder thing only comes up when you click on an optical drive.
Expose is cool. Internet Connect is much improved. So far I'm very very impressed, and this is just the first version of a beta! I'm anxious for the GM; I will gladly hand Apple my $129 for this increase in UI snappiness.
You could also use Disc Copy to burn the images to a cd. Either way that is what needs to be done.