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Quite expensive, but I'm keen to see how well Overwatch performs considering it's being touted as a feature, according to 9to5mac and CNet.
 
They make every single MacOs update incompatible with their software. The idea is that you never stop paying them.

No, they do their best to imply that... but it's not really true. If you dig through the obfuscation, what they're really saying is "if you run into a problem running your current Parallels on the updated OS X (macOS), we won't help you".

In my experience, older versions of Parallels continue to work fine on newer versions of OS X. I expect it'll be the same with macOS Sierra.
 
Can someone explain to me the difference between using the built in parallels on a Mac to this?
 
I'm still running PD9 on El Cap, no problem and not planning to upgrade, switching to VirtualBox since I'm only need it for company VPN connection and RDP, maybe occasionally programming work on visual studio...I don't see a point forking out the $$$
 
What do you all run in a VM anyway?

Windows only apps?

I run World Machine, xNormal, and 3DS Max, plus some basic Steam games.
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VirtualBox has horrible graphics support. Not only will new games perform poorly, but I've had ridiculous issues with compatibility, even with simple games. I think it's more aimed at those running Unix command line VMs (like me). For that, I actually like it a lot better than Parallels.

Parallels seems to run games the best. It does a lot better than VMWare Fusion, maybe because it's Mac-only so it's truly focused on Mac performance, not sure.
Parallels is still pretty terrible with games though. Very few run well in my experience. No mention I see in the promo video of support for DX11 or 12.
 
I run both parallels and Fusion. Fusion lags behind by a mile regarding graphics performance. For the "king of virtualisation technology", this is disappointing. VMware need to up their game in this respect.
 
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Can someone explain to me the difference between using the built in parallels on a Mac to this?
What do you mean by "built in parallels"?

If you are referring to Boot Camp, it's a free download from Apple's servers and allows you to boot directly into the Windows environment and run it on Mac hardware. Apple takes care of the required drivers. The difference between that and virtualisation is primarily it is far more resource efficient to run the former because it's running the code natively without having to translate it between OS's. Consequently apps will run much smoother under BC than in virtualisation. Of course, then you loose the ability to quickly switch between Mac and Windows apps.
 
I run parallels 10 on El Cap for a couple of Windows only tools that I need when I am working from home. Of course I could bring my Windows laptop home with me, but I'd rather not carry it, and I'd much rather work on my 40" screen anyway. Age of Empires HD runs great under Parallels as well.

I saw no reason to upgrade to v11, yet to be convinced I need v12.
 
Yeah good luck with your Fusion. VMware fired all Fusion developers in the US a year ago...

Yeah, this seriously keeps me up at night. I have copies of Fusion and Workstation, been using it for years and am an ESXi fan and now they ax the entire team? In some org the only way someone can have a Mac full time is if Windows VM running side by side, Fusion even had features for that.

Not a huge fan of VirtualBox, just doesn't seem to work as seamless as Fusion.
 
Thank you soooooooo much for adding Sierra support for this year's price gouge. I needed another reason to spend money -- not on native Mac OS VM graphics, but Sierra support. Thanks again for your top service!
 
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Fine as a business purchase - overpriced for private use should be £19.99 for non business.
Thanks MR though - downloaded - upgrade.

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Thank you soooooooo much for adding Sierra support for this year's price gouge. I needed another reason to spend money -- not on native Mac OS VM graphics, but Sierra support. Thanks again for your top service!
In case it's not clear to anyone here, VMWare is no longer a priority for me -- they don't meet the needs I have. I want a _Mac_ VM, not a Windows VM...
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In case it's not clear to anyone here, VMWare is no longer a priority for me -- they don't meet the needs I have. I want a _Mac_ VM, not a Windows VM...
I realized I just commented on a Parallels update when I was thinking VMWare. Whomp whomp.... But the truth is, both companies are thinking we want to run Windows 10 BS as a VM when some of us actually want a Mac VM. Seriously!!! How hard is it to give us native support on a Mac VM?!
 
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In case it's not clear to anyone here, VMWare is no longer a priority for me -- they don't meet the needs I have. I want a _Mac_ VM, not a Windows VM...
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I realized I just commented on a Parallels update when I was thinking VMWare. Whomp whomp.... But the truth is, both companies are thinking we want to run Windows 10 BS as a VM when some of us actually want a Mac VM. Seriously!!! How hard is it to give us native support on a Mac VM?!

Also, why is MacRumor's forums "merging" posts, when clearly I don't want them merged?
 
What do you mean by "built in parallels"?

If you are referring to Boot Camp, it's a free download from Apple's servers and allows you to boot directly into the Windows environment and run it on Mac hardware. Apple takes care of the required drivers. The difference between that and virtualisation is primarily it is far more resource efficient to run the former because it's running the code natively without having to translate it between OS's. Consequently apps will run much smoother under BC than in virtualisation. Of course, then you loose the ability to quickly switch between Mac and Windows apps.
Also you can't run older OS on BC, it depends on your make of Mac. With parallels from what I understand you can run anything back to DOS.
 
What do you all run in a VM anyway?
This is a.great survey question. I barely use Parallels and boot camp, but it's great to have those few times that I need it.

I'm learning Microsoft Project as part of my project management course, and it only runs on Windows. So I run Windows 10 using either Parallels if I don't want to quit my Mac apps, or using bootcamp if I want to close them Mac apps to remove distractions.

I also run Excel in Windows for the Lynda.com statistics course that uses Excel for exercises and examples.
 
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