Parallels Server Runs Virtualized Mac OS X

[saltyzoo]

And its very simple to install, you just put the files on a USB stick, boot with the OS X DVD and run a couple short commands in terminal, its Darwin too which is all open source.

If you want the long complicated procedure then this thread was one of the first solutions to getting Leopard on a PC, it involves patching the actual Leopard DVD on a Mac so it has a bootable file system on a PC: http://forum.osx86scene.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2008

Since I'm so close minded, can I have the "simple install" instructions instead of the long complicated ones? You said they exist, so they must exist.

Since seeing it in person seems to be the only way to convince you, I'm making the offer. And yes, it is a legitimate offer. Let me know by PM when you'll be in Portland, and I'll adjust my schedule to show you.

I'm not saying it can't be done. It can. But it's not simple, and your odds of having a fully functional machine are very low unless you buy very specific hardware, which isn't necessarily easy to find cheaply. That's not an opinion, it's a matter of reality.

My point is that you can't just take an "average $500 dell" and make it a mac in an hour. And that's not because I'm narrow minded. It's just reality.

Just like anything else you do, it's simple once you understand it. But the average schmuck is not going to be able to create a hackintosh in an hour. The average schmuck isn't going to be able to do it at all.

 

[stainlessliquid]

Stop pretending like you know what youre talking about, you dont have any experience in trying it yourself or even reading about it. I sent you a link of a video installing the iATKOS version of Leopard, which is the easy way to do it, THOSE ARE THE INSTRUCTIONS. You turn on the computer, you put the DVD in the drive, you run the installer, then you take the DVD out of the drive (or if youre feeling extra rebellious you can actually leave the DVD in the drive). How is it possible to show better proof than a video outside of you installing the thing yourself? You wanted the details so I sent you the BrazilMac method, which apparently wasnt good enough for you even though it was exactly what you asked for (including links to the scripts you use to patch the DVD, you can actually open up a .sh file in text edit and read exactly what its doing or type the commands in terminal yourself ).

Just like anything else you do, it's simple once you understand it.

How many times have you gone into something thinking its going to be hard only to find out it was incredibly easy? You cant expect to get very far in life if you just give up when something may or may not be hard to do.

 

[saltyzoo]

Stop pretending like you know what youre talking about, you dont have any experience in trying it yourself or even reading about it. I sent you a link of a video installing the iATKOS version of Leopard, which is the easy way to do it, THOSE ARE THE INSTRUCTIONS. You turn on the computer, you put the DVD in the drive, you run the installer, then you take the DVD out of the drive (or if youre feeling extra rebellious you can actually leave the DVD in the drive). How is it possible to show better proof than a video outside of you installing the thing yourself? You wanted the details so I sent you the BrazilMac method, which apparently wasnt good enough for you even though it was exactly what you asked for (including links to the scripts you use to patch the DVD, you can actually open up a .sh file in text edit and read exactly what its doing or type the commands in terminal yourself ).


How many times have you gone into something thinking its going to be hard only to find out it was incredibly easy? You cant expect to get very far in life if you never try things you think might be hard.

You have no idea my experience or knowledge, and you are quite wrong in your guesses. YOU are the one that said it was simple, THEN posted IN YOUR WORDS a link to a COMPLICATED procedure.

If you find it simple, I applaud you. But it's not simple. You are seriously oversimplifying it. OSX will not magically run perfectly on any computer. To state such is an oversimplification at best and an outright distortion of reality at worst.

You can "kind of" get OSX to run on some equipment, to some degree, with some degree of work. That we can agree on. But especially in the wake of the recent Vista driver fiasco, to state that it will work perfectly on any $500 Dell is an overstatement. Every device out there isn't going to work with an out of the box Mac device driver. Not by a long shot.

I know, you risk being labeled (what was it? A five year old?) if you don't pretend that it's simple, but relax, I'm not going to think any less of you if you admit that it's not perfect.

 

[jhande]

You have no idea my experience or knowledge, and you are quite wrong in your guesses. YOU are the one that said it was simple, THEN posted IN YOUR WORDS a link to a COMPLICATED procedure.

If you find it simple, I applaud you. But it's not simple. You are seriously oversimplifying it. OSX will not magically run perfectly on any computer. To state such is an oversimplification at best and an outright distortion of reality at worst.

You can "kind of" get OSX to run on some equipment, to some degree, with some degree of work. That we can agree on. But especially in the wake of the recent Vista driver fiasco, to state that it will work perfectly on any $500 Dell is an overstatement. Every device out there isn't going to work with an out of the box Mac device driver. Not by a long shot.

I know, you risk being labeled (what was it? A five year old?) if you don't pretend that it's simple, but relax, I'm not going to think any less of you if you admit that it's not perfect.

Lemme take a wild guess here: Prior to 2001 you didn't use computers, have never used a floppy disk, never connected peripherals to these complicated things, and have only been exposed to 'It Just Works'. Oh yeah, you have never, ever, ever used a windows operating system (and never understood what people meant when they said 'General Protection Fault', and 'BSOD'), right?

Otherwise, how could you call the references that stainlessliquid/ehurtley gave you 'complicated'.

Oh, my bad. You're just yanking peoples' chains, no?

 

[saltyzoo]

Otherwise, how could you call the references that stainlessliquid/ehurtley gave you 'complicated'.

Um, he's the one that used the word complicated, not me. I happen to agree with him.

I'm not going to give you my resume because I could care less if some random person on the internet thinks I'm an idiot.

Do you honestly believe there is magic that makes OSX work on any hardware with no troubles? And if so, why do you think MS hasn't bought it yet? That's some pretty powerful magic that would save them a lot of embarrassment and support costs for Vista.

 

[stainlessliquid]

The BrazilMac method is complicated (and I use that term loosely), it involves creating a dmg out of the Leopard DVD and then running an automated script, ouch. The iATKOS way is not, hence me saying twice that it was the easy way which you managed to stay oblivious to. I said at the beginning that it doesnt work on "any" hardware, you grabbed that one out of thin air, but it does work perfectly on a lot of hardware, mostly intel chipsets, both expensive and nonexpensive. With the new releases like iATKOS or Kalyway it is compatible with a good 80%+ of the PC's out there using an Intel SSE3 processor. http://wiki.osx86project.org has a massive compatibility list which includes OEM computers and individual parts.

Really, everyone is saying youre wrong, links were posted proving that it is easier than what you are making it out to be. What exactly is so hard to understand?

 

[saltyzoo]

Really, everyone is saying youre wrong, links were posted proving that it is easier than what you are making it out to be. What exactly is so hard to understand?

LOl You and one other person is hardly "everyone". But it fits with your descriptions of compatibility as well. That 80% figure. Care to provide anything to back it up? Or did you just "guess"?

BTW, that post is the first time you admitted that we actually agree. Thanks.

 

[jashic]

LOl You and one other person is hardly "everyone". But it fits with your descriptions of compatibility as well. That 80% figure. Care to provide anything to back it up? Or did you just "guess"?

BTW, that post is the first time you admitted that we actually agree. Thanks.

Jesus, no one cares if you don't believe any of us. Keep your head in the sand. We're not your gofers who find information for you at a whim. Use google. It's your friend. I know you may not know how to use it but here are some instructions:

Type g o o g l e dot c o m in the top bar address on your browser. The browser is the program that lets you go to different websites. You will see a simple page appear in your browser. In the text box in the middle, type in what you want to find and click "search". Thumb through the results until you are satisfied.

If this is too complex then forget everything we told you about MacOS on PC's. It's simply too much for you to handle and therefore you should consider it an impossibility.

 

[stainlessliquid]

LOl You and one other person is hardly "everyone". But it fits with your descriptions of compatibility as well. That 80% figure. Care to provide anything to back it up? Or did you just "guess"?

BTW, that post is the first time you admitted that we actually agree. Thanks.

You must just be trolling now, I dont think its possible for someone to be that oblivious to reality.

 

[saltyzoo]

So I must agree with you to not be stupid? And I must agree without you providing any evidence. Yup. I'm too stupid to be here all right.

PS> WE AGREE. You amended your statements to admit that it isn't perfect and it doesn't work perfectly and it isn't simple. That's all I've been saying all along.

 

[stainlessliquid]

I didnt amend anything, show me where I changed what I said. Youre still acting like the only thing I showed you was the BrazilMac way of patching a DVD. Bravo.

 

[ajbrehm]

The EULA isn't a "law" -- it's a license to use the product. When you buy a book, you buy the actual physical copy of the book. Only one person can read a book at a given time.

I said the EULA isn't a "law". What were you reading?

Either way, more than one person can read a book at a given time. That's what photocopiers and printing presses are for, and that is why copyright law was invented.

The fact that copyright ALSO applies to software (as it does to books) does in no way mean that books and software are different.

Software, however, is different. And thus the software manufacturers have to come up with a mechanism to ensure that only one person uses a given copy of the software at a given time (unless, of course, the license provides otherwise as in Apple's family packs).

Copyright law defines what we can legally copy and what not. It has nothing to do with other mechanisms. For example, I am allowed to quote a sentence or two from a book or newspaper, and I am allowed to make a backup copy of software I bought.

If the vendor uses "mechanisms" to take those rights away from me, he is violating the law that says that I have those rights.

BTW, the US Constitution isn't a "law" per se but rather the delineation of the structure of the government and the enunciation of certain rights guaranteed to Americans. It's more akin to the English Bill of Rights (1689) than to the German Grundgesetz of 1949 even though the Grundgesetz does set up the framework of the Federal Republic. Moreover, the Constitution is indeed binding on people born in the US regardless of their consent -- individuals are guaranteed the same rights (life, liberty, due process of law, etc.) even if said individuals refuse to recognize the authority of the federal government (see the militia movements for example).

A constitution is law. But the US constitution is really only about the limits of the US government. It doesn't tell you or me what to do, it only limits what (other) laws the government can apply.

It is _not_ binding on people born in the US, it is binding on the US government.

 

[ajbrehm]

Your details state you are from Ireland. You are not in a position to be making statements of fact about the US constitution nor do you deserve the position to do so. Once you become an American, you may have that opportunity. Until then, suck another Guiness down and stick to your own politics.

I totally forgot that Ireland doesn't have any copyright laws and that I am hence not allowed to make statements about copyright laws. Sorry, my bad.

I also forgot that I am not allowed to make statements about the US legal system, because of where I was born. Sorry, also my bad.

I foolishly assumed that a constitution is something you understand because you read it rather than understand because of who or where your parents where at the time of your birth.

P.S.: I was actually born in US-occupied territory in an American hospital. Does that count?

P.P.S.: My apparent lack of general knowledge allows me to travel and live in different places. I _might_ move to the US, but I now fear that that would mean that I am no longer allowed to know anything about other legal systems.

 

[Anonymous Freak]

P.S.: I was actually born in US-occupied territory in an American hospital. Does that count?

Just in case you didn't know, that entitles you to apply for dual citizenship.

(Trying really hard to refrain from making personal remarks about other members {not you} while agreeing with your other statements.)

 

[ajbrehm]

Just in case you didn't know, that entitles you to apply for dual citizenship.

I don't think so. I was not born on a sovereign base or any such area, just occupied territory.

It would be great if that entitled me to American citizenship. I did play Baseball growing up!

(Trying really hard to refrain from making personal remarks about other members {not you} while agreeing with your other statements.)

Hehe. Good one. I didn't manage that well.

 

[Anonymous Freak]

I don't think so. I was not born on a sovereign base or any such area, just occupied territory.

Whoops, misread your original post, I thought you said you were born in US territory, somehow I missed the whole 'occupied' part.