You should clean your fanboi glasses from time to time. The tactics are identical: tell your audience that you are their protector. Tell them that the compromises they are agreeing to are for a greater good.
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Parental Control App Developers Urge Apple to 'Put Kids First' by Releasing Screen Time API
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You should clean your fanboi glasses from time to time. The tactics are identical: tell your audience that you are their protector. Tell them that the compromises they are agreeing to are for a greater good.
Fanboi glasses? You lose all credibility when you have to resort to insults to try and make a point.
If you were insulted by a metaphor, you're either too fragile for debate, or the metaphor was too accurate for you to deny.
Logical fallacy. Posit only two positions, both of which are demeaning, and claim those are the only two choices.
Here’s a third. Not wanting to waste time with someone who has the maturity level to use terms like “fanboi”.
Are you "that kid" from the playground who ran his mouth, then cried for mom when someone made you aware of yourself?
Fanboi is a legit label. Some make it respectable. Others make it unfashionable. Which are you?
I trust Apple’s motives (offer me a great experience which I pay handsomely for) more than I trust the motives of these companies crying foul.
Ugh...
Many people always believe they are way better than what they actually are. Don’t deny. This is natural behaviour for a lot of people.
As of the entire API thing, It might not be the exact “grant root access” but altering app and system behaviour to limit the usage is closer to the demand of full iOS control. Antivirus software runs on the same concept.
I have no sympathy on both sides. Let those developers keep requesting and let those parents learning how to teach their child to properly use the tech.
Many people always believe they are way better than what they actually are. Don’t deny. This is natural behaviour for a lot of people.
As of the entire API thing, It might not be the exact “grant root access” but altering app and system behaviour to limit the usage is closer to the demand of full iOS control. Antivirus software runs on the same concept.
I have no sympathy on both sides. Let those developers keep requesting and let those parents learning how to teach their child to properly use the tech.
I think "stupid people" are a rarity. Someone who is consistently confused or wrong is defective. More oft, people are simply emotional, manipulated into embracing an idea, or uninformed. In fact, intelligent people are often more stubborn and over-confident than less cerebral persons. I respect wisdom more than raw intelligence. Wisdom is a product of experience.
To illustrate how arrogant an intellect can be, I literally humbled a Duke University brain surgeon. One of my kids was born premature and experienced Hydrocephalus. To manage the condition, a brain surgeon inserts a shunt that drains the accumulating brain fluid into the intestines. The surgeon said it is a life long condition that requires longer shunts as a person grows. I simply asked if it was possible my son's condition was a symptom of his prematurity, and if he might out grow the condition as his body develops to a normal size. He shook his head and said emphatically, "No. I have never seen that happen."
Long story, short... My kid got an infection from the procedure. They removed the internal shunt and attached an external shunt to collect the brain fluid in an IV bag. As he healed from the infection, he discharged less and less fluid. His surgeon typically visited with a colleague. When they discovered my kid had out grown the Hydocephalus, the surgeon said nothing and didn't show his face again. He had his colleague do it alone.
Partially. Nicer to be able to control it from screentime, so when I do want it allowed I can turn it on for my kids. My point is, why is this app not a part of screentime when other apps are.
There are plenty of reasons for developers wanting to use the API’s associated with Screentime. One I can think of is to have your lights turn off around that time as well, or when the 5 minute warning appears dim the lights. It could also be used to integrate some additional controls for managing use allowing controls to be a bit more granular.
Perhaps even creating front end apps for managing your child’s device, similar to how Circle works, but utilizing the native controls built into the device, rather than having to develop your own.
Those are just a few ideas of getting access to the API could do from the very top of my head.
https://www.amazon.com/Jitterbug-Easy-Phone-Seniors-GreatCall/dp/B01DRV2BBY?th=1
Here ya go, problem solved. Much cheaper than an iPhone too. Why you would spend hundreds of dollars on one just to turn it in to a dumb phone I do not understand. Save your money instead.
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A little off topic, but I do hope your child is doing all right, and wish him the best of health.
Nope, you’re wrong. Rather than address the argument you resorted to insulting the person. Ad hominem is a fallacy and you committed it. And you are continuing to do so in each response. It may feel good to you, but it weakens the position of any argument you are trying to make.
This should be a very high up priority for Apple, it's actually not nearly enough. Having control over my kids activities is very important and it seems Apple is really dropping the ball here. I do wish for something like separate accounts on iOS, but that may be more of a pipe dream and will keep me on windows for now. But if you look at the Amazon devices they have some superb parental control features, Apple could learn a thing or 3 from them.
At this point I'm considering either an Amazon device or a surface Go for my kids, with the Go as the probable choice as Microsoft has some decent parental control options and also I can have separate accounts/logins.
Another huge issue is the lack of parental controls on my Apple TV. I want youtube for myself, for example, but there is no way to limit my kids getting on youtube. It's either install or not install. Sometimes I wonder why I bothered with an Apple TV versus a PC.
At this point I'm considering either an Amazon device or a surface Go for my kids, with the Go as the probable choice as Microsoft has some decent parental control options and also I can have separate accounts/logins.
Another huge issue is the lack of parental controls on my Apple TV. I want youtube for myself, for example, but there is no way to limit my kids getting on youtube. It's either install or not install. Sometimes I wonder why I bothered with an Apple TV versus a PC.
Thanks for the sentiment, Ab. Actually, he's an adult at this point. If you met him, you'd never guess he was born prematurely. The "life-long" concern the expert said he would have never occurred.
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Frankly, I don't have the patience for those who think their pretentious armchair familiarity with logic concepts validates their opinions. Save it for the debate club. The nature of reality is that it often defies logic.
And the same passive-aggressives who routinely insult the intuitions and passions of the meeker posters can't stomach rejection.
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It really winds me up at times the way these developers always say “come on Apple released the API“ pretending it’s just a case of I forgot to take a box or push a button or something, When they know full well that it’s much more involved in that it wasn’t just an oversight that a public API wasn’t released. These things take time in order to make sure that our privacy is maintained and that iOS security isn’t compromised. I just wish They wouldn’t resort to do these dishonest tactics to try and get their way.
That being said, I do expect the Apple will probably release something next week. And I for one can’t wait to see what they call it; screen kit? Time kit? Abdicating responsibility kit?
That being said, I do expect the Apple will probably release something next week. And I for one can’t wait to see what they call it; screen kit? Time kit? Abdicating responsibility kit?
That's more expensive per month than adding a line to my unlimited plan.
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Because I can then sell the parent an app for “free” and in the background, collect metadata and show ads to the kid? Just putting my dr evil hat.
A $50 phone vs a $1000 phone makes quite a bit of difference...
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If you had decent arguments you wouldn’t need insults. It’s that simple.
Or maybe you should mind your own business since you do not seem to understand that an iPhone has other uses when not connected to the internet (i.e., iPod).
My kids loves music and I have no objection to them listening to it whenever they want to.
I currently have to use a combination of tools to achieve what I feel is appropriate for MY children.
Having it all in one place though just makes sense.
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