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PC iPod at MWNY
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Well, I do not see what name Apple would call it. Besides, Apple has created Quicktime for windoze under the same name for Mac. And other computers have called their line of products for other OSs the same name (Office, IE, Windoze Media [dec]ayer). So I would argue for it to be called iTunes, or something along those lines. Probably the "i" would be dropped.
I think that the new digital hub view shows that they're going to try to keep the digital 'i' apps on the mac. Quicktime came out way before the Apple's digital hub out look.
I know that it's just my opinion, but I think that Apple will only write a sync utility.
Another big reason is when iTunes goes all MP4. They definitely won't put those capabilities on PC's.
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I know that it's just my opinion, but I think that Apple will only write a sync utility.
Another big reason is when iTunes goes all MP4. They definitely won't put those capabilities on PC's.
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Again, I don't expect Apple to release "iTunes", but something, maybe, such as Tunes Transfer or something along those lines.
And, damn right, peecee users are going to miss out on a lot of the extras iTunes will soon get! 😀
And, damn right, peecee users are going to miss out on a lot of the extras iTunes will soon get! 😀
Ok, King Cobra. I think that we were on the same page the whole time, we just chose different words.
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Pro: Apple could use something else to get more Quicktime Installed on Peecees
Con: Makes 'switch' harder to sell...
Con: Makes 'switch' harder to sell...
Just wondering what those new *features* that iTunes users are going to get. MP4 support? Well, QT6 includes support for MP4, and QT6 is available for Windows just as it is for Mac. So if Apple *did* create iTunes:windows (like IE:mac, Office:mac), I'd think they'd incorporate features that pull from QT just like they would in the Mac OS version.
- Brandon
Brandon, let me clear up a few things.
First, Quicktime is only in Public Preview, which means that (1) there are limitations to usage and (2) it will expire in (I think) October. Because of the issues with MPEG-LA and the licenses Apple will sooner or later be able to release their final version of Quicktime with full MPEG-4 support. That is bound to happen, but right now Quicktime 6 is basically in a beta mode with an expiration date.
As for what the update for iTunes will include, I kind of got a rumor going about iTunes 3 (for Mac) featuring mp4 audio support. A few others jumpped along the rumor wagon and we are not even halfway down the trail. For instance, a member previously posted that iTunes 3 will not be able to encode mp3s, but will still support them. (IMO I highly doubt it.)
I wouldn't be able to guess that well on what Apple will do for features with a windoze version of iTunes IF Apple develops and release one.
First, Quicktime is only in Public Preview, which means that (1) there are limitations to usage and (2) it will expire in (I think) October. Because of the issues with MPEG-LA and the licenses Apple will sooner or later be able to release their final version of Quicktime with full MPEG-4 support. That is bound to happen, but right now Quicktime 6 is basically in a beta mode with an expiration date.
As for what the update for iTunes will include, I kind of got a rumor going about iTunes 3 (for Mac) featuring mp4 audio support. A few others jumpped along the rumor wagon and we are not even halfway down the trail. For instance, a member previously posted that iTunes 3 will not be able to encode mp3s, but will still support them. (IMO I highly doubt it.)
I wouldn't be able to guess that well on what Apple will do for features with a windoze version of iTunes IF Apple develops and release one.
Yes, King Cobra, I understand that QT6 is a Public Preview right now. But, when the final version is released, both the Windows and Mac OS versions will both support MPEG-4. Predicting what will happen with iTunes is impossible, but it seems to me that Apple wouldn't want to ignore a feature that they worked so hard to provide in QT6 (and one that they have been pushing for for quite some time) in a Windows release of iTunes. Now, of course, everything is a big speculation because Apple hasn't officially said ANYTHING about official Windows compatibility for iPod.
- Brandon
Here is where I am confused: If Quicktime 6 will have mpeg-4 support for windoze and Mac, while software will be needed if mp4s are going to be tranfered to the iPod for windoze as well, then wouldn't Apple have to release some sort of software that goes along with audio compatibility, similar to iTunes? I know that there are 3rd party candidates that make software, but I don't think Apple makes it better. 😎
beatle888
macrumors 68000
At first I thought what an idiot, then I thought, why not.
why not just have an Apple OS running on the PC hardware
that kicks our Apple hardware butts? I know I know, it has
tons of technichal issues but really I dont give a rats @ss
what the hardware is as long as I'm interfacing with Apple.
Maybe Apple should just be a software company
i wouldnt like apple as just a software company,.
we would have to give up these beautiful machines 🙁
we would have to give up these beautiful machines 🙁
porting iTunes.
Well, I highly doubt that they would port iTunes to the PC, but I wouldn't have a problem with it. Like someone stated earlier, they ported office to the mac, so I suppose it would be fair to "return the favor." As much as I'd love to see a million macs sell just to use the iPod, simple is better, and pc software will make things much simpler.
Well, I highly doubt that they would port iTunes to the PC, but I wouldn't have a problem with it. Like someone stated earlier, they ported office to the mac, so I suppose it would be fair to "return the favor." As much as I'd love to see a million macs sell just to use the iPod, simple is better, and pc software will make things much simpler.
McFreggle
macrumors 6502a
I'm getting more and more convinced...
Mark my words... If they release something for PC, it will be the Mediafour XPlay software, to sync with the Windows Media Player. Nothing more, nothing less.
k.
Mediafour XPlay
Mark my words... If they release something for PC, it will be the Mediafour XPlay software, to sync with the Windows Media Player. Nothing more, nothing less.
k.
Mediafour XPlay
yeah,
i reckon it wil be a plugin or whatever for syncing with media player, and with realone which is what all my PeeCee mates use. Real One is just like iTunes in functionality and has sort of stolen its idea but its so unintuitive, i can't believe that after all these years peecee software makers including microsoft have learnt nothing from apple in terms of ease of use!!
i reckon it wil be a plugin or whatever for syncing with media player, and with realone which is what all my PeeCee mates use. Real One is just like iTunes in functionality and has sort of stolen its idea but its so unintuitive, i can't believe that after all these years peecee software makers including microsoft have learnt nothing from apple in terms of ease of use!!
PC iPod
I don't think a Windows compatible iPod works well with Apple's "Switch" campaign. True, they would sell more iPods, however, they would give PC users one more reason not to buy a Mac. Furthermore, if Apple ported iTunes to M$ other Windows compatible iApps might be expected (perhaps with future iDevices) and the reasons for switching would become even less convincing. Well, just my 2 cents.
Bill
I don't think a Windows compatible iPod works well with Apple's "Switch" campaign. True, they would sell more iPods, however, they would give PC users one more reason not to buy a Mac. Furthermore, if Apple ported iTunes to M$ other Windows compatible iApps might be expected (perhaps with future iDevices) and the reasons for switching would become even less convincing. Well, just my 2 cents.
Bill
McFreggle
macrumors 6502a
Re: PC iPod
Yeah, but they're smart... very smart...
They'll perform a demo.
"Hey! This is the iPod, this is Windows, and this is XPlay. Now we will plug the iPod in, and it will sync."
Now, first of all they will notice it's the first time Windows notices the Firewire port. So they will have to install the whole thing.
An hour and two crashes later, they will be ready to sync the iPod. Then again the computer will crash. Then, the playlist will suddenly disappear. Then...
(Until they kick the PC, they plug the iPod into a Mac, and it beautifully syncs)
😀
Get my point? 😉
k.
Yeah, but they're smart... very smart...
They'll perform a demo.
"Hey! This is the iPod, this is Windows, and this is XPlay. Now we will plug the iPod in, and it will sync."
Now, first of all they will notice it's the first time Windows notices the Firewire port. So they will have to install the whole thing.
An hour and two crashes later, they will be ready to sync the iPod. Then again the computer will crash. Then, the playlist will suddenly disappear. Then...
(Until they kick the PC, they plug the iPod into a Mac, and it beautifully syncs)
😀
Get my point? 😉
k.
Re: Re: Re: PC iPod
Heh, especially with trustworthy computing initiative? Where will your precious apple be then? (Or my Apple for that matter!) My guess is if Microsoft felt it was a threat they would pull another code theft and then settle. The Ipod adds a lot of incentive to the switch, if MS sees it as a threat they will neutralize it, like they have done so many times before. (look at quicktime)
Heh, especially with trustworthy computing initiative? Where will your precious apple be then? (Or my Apple for that matter!) My guess is if Microsoft felt it was a threat they would pull another code theft and then settle. The Ipod adds a lot of incentive to the switch, if MS sees it as a threat they will neutralize it, like they have done so many times before. (look at quicktime)