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Originally posted by SPG
Correct me if I'm wrong here but....isn't there already PC software for the iPod?
I know it ain't Apple sanctioned, but it's out there isn't it?

Ephpod and Xplay-- I think they both use WiMP (Windows Media Player) as their MP3 front end.

But the point of the rumor and the discussion is having something with the USABILITY of iTunes (or something closer to the level of iTunes), Apple sanctioned, on the Windows side, as a means of selling more iPods.

I think Apple would rather iPods sell more Macs; although it is hard for some people to fathom that someone would buy a computer just to use an MP3 player- it has happened. Especially for people fed up with Windows. (its actually tough enough finding a Wintel box with Firewire.)
 
Yes there are PC iPod software programs

Originally posted by SPG
Correct me if I'm wrong here but....isn't there already PC software for the iPod?
I know it ain't Apple sanctioned, but it's out there isn't it?

Quite a few in fact. One is a $40 shareware that hasn't come out of beta.
 
Re: Re: OK?

Originally posted by arn


Well... perhaps - but it could be seen as the first step towards owning a Mac. A PC user gets exposed to the iPod - likes what he/she sees... hears more about Apple etc....

arn

I agree that just getting the Apple logo into the hands of PC users is a good thing. Many of them inherently look down their noses at everything Apple. Give them a taste of a quality Apple product... and I have a feeling they'll bite. Give them the full iTunes, if that would help, but make sure each new version ships WAY after the Mac one, and is missing a few features. Mac fans have been putting up with that for years.
 
Here's what I'd do:


Use QuickTime as a front end and make iTunes exclusively mac. Make the iPod's manual have lots of glossy pictures of the iPod working with iTunes...

that will help convince them with a bit of luck. I converted to mac after d/l'ing QT for my 2k box (i surfed the apple site while it was downloading and saw "Mac OS X -- Industrial Strength UNIX OS") drooooollll
 
the pc users i come across don't care what company the product is...only that it works

the brand loyalty thing is a mac phenomenon

or should i call it a cult? he he
 
iPod support on Windows will come with iTunes 2 for Windows, I wrote this yesterday.

Cool things are coming new week... it's great!
 
Originally posted by oeyvind
iPod support on Windows will come with iTunes 2 for Windows, I wrote this yesterday.

Cool things are coming new week... it's great!

Ok, it's been *2* weeks, and nothing even vaguely iPod related... or PC related... So you want to tell us what was supposedly going to happen?
Or were you just babbling?
 
I think oeyvind is being honest.

I know someone at class who has an iPod and used a PC to load songs to it. It's true. I saw him coming to class this past week listening to his iPod. I thought he had switched to Macs. He said he was using PCs.

Another resurrected post... oh, wait, I said I wouldn't say anything like that again. Whatever. :)
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Originally posted by King Cobra
I think oeyvind is being honest.

I know someone at class who has an iPod and used a PC to load songs to it. It's true. I saw him coming to class this past week listening to his iPod. I thought he had switched to Macs. He said he was using PCs.

Another resurrected post... oh, wait, I said I wouldn't say anything like that again. Whatever. :)
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XPlay's software has been beta for awhile, I wouldn't be surprised if that PC person had XPlay's beta. Not to mention, it isn't too hard with Maclink's Macopener to mount Mac drives. One could easily work with that. Unless you ask the person what they used to connect to the iPod in terms of software, you'll never know.
 
Honest?

Originally posted by King Cobra
I think oeyvind is being honest.

I know someone at class who has an iPod and used a PC to load songs to it. It's true. I saw him coming to class this past week listening to his iPod. I thought he had switched to Macs. He said he was using PCs.
I don't know that anyone was questioning his honesty, just his accuracy. Indeed (as several others have mentioned in this thread), Xplay is not at all new, so the heart of this rumor must have had something to do with either iTunes or something else that made iPods as easy to use with PCs as Macs.

There has been NO new news on this front.

The fact that someone is using an iPod with a PC is not evidence that the rumor is true. Any new development on this front would have been publicized. Either the rumor was false, or it hasn't panned out just yet.

So which is it, oeyvind?

Chris
 
i wouldnt mind seeing itunes for windows, i'm getting tired as hell of some ppl trying to make their wmp8 look like itunes lol, it would convert many wmp users to itunes, but then again the winamp users may not like itunes :S
i tried out itunes on os9 once and it seems pretty good and played if i had a million dollars lol
 
Ok, so windows users will sometime soon be able to use the iPod with an official release from apple, rather than third-party s/w. Great. Apple should sell as many iPod's as they can. What i'm wondering though, is what exactly does a 'pc version' mean. Does it mean that they will sell one iPod directed at mac users, with an HFS+ formatted hd, and one for windows users, with an NTFS hd? That seems like a bit of a hassle, as it's not going to be possible to use one iPod on both platforms (without the dreaded third party). Alternatively, apple could simply release some sort of patch or application, enabling windows to recognise HFS+, and keep with just one version (ok, 2 if you look at it as 5GB and 10GB iPods:)). Which is it going to be?
 
win Me/98/95 users wont be able to use it since ntfs is unreadable in fat/fat16/fat32 so its gonna probably have to be fat32 since fat32 is readable in ntfs n used by a majority of computer users who dont use XP
 
Originally posted by SilvorX
win Me/98/95 users wont be able to use it since ntfs is unreadable in fat/fat16/fat32 so its gonna probably have to be fat32 since fat32 is readable in ntfs n used by a majority of computer users who dont use XP

Except the way they do presently with third party apps like MacDrive. Xplay is made by the makers of MacDrive, which allows several flavors of windows to recognize Mac formatted drives. Not sure how Ephpod gets around this.

But its really not that big a problem, having windows recognize the iPod since it is already being done, just not via an Apple application.
 
found this at ipodhacks.com

iPod PDA...?
Date Tuesday, May 07 @ 06:31:54
Topic iPod General
Just received a curious account from an individual who spottted something rather curious:
"I saw something last week on Friday I thought was pretty interesting after an Apple event in San Jose...There was this guy with an iPod showing it off taking in a voice "command" and then it converted the words into a 'partial' contact. Everything he spoke in to it was converted (I'm guessing like Via Voice) to text.
He was using a headphone set similar to those seen for cell phones, except with two ear pieces. Maybe the iPod REALLY IS Apple's version of a PDA afterall??"
It seems questionable as to whether Apple would add significantly more PDA functionality (we do have Contacts...) to the current iPod form factor. Still, an interesting report (made somewhat more interesting by Apple's mention of the new OS X Inkwell HWR technology, taken from the Newton).
 
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