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Dammit again? Why the hell doesn't app review evolve with the rest of the company? Apple is moving forward, but they are stuck in 2009 it seems.
 
So Apple wants iCloud to fail, good to know the monkeys in the boardroom have it all under control
 
Planned to try iCloud Drive again with iWork and GoodReader. But with this funny "policy" enforcement, now I gonna pull all my fresh-migrated PDFs away from iCloud back to my little WebDAV server, which is always online for OmniFocus anyway. The good news is, GoodReader syncs nicely with WebDAV servers.

Bye, iCloud for productivity. iCloud Photo Library is nice though.

:D
 
In the developer's support area for the product at http://www.goodreader.com/#updates there are no dates.

Can anyone put dates to 4.7.0 and/or any of the lesser versions? Thanks.

4.7.0 was released on 13 Nov, per App Store's record. The iCloud Drive support came around one week after iOS 8's grand release.

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It's good to see this developer complying with requirements that ensure the security of all iOS users valuable data stored in iCloud.

I understand some people do value functionality over security, but for the vast majority of people iOS is the number one choice because Apple emphasises protection of security and privacy.
iWork must be very dangerous then. Creating folders, deleting folders and moving files in and out of folders can blow your iCloud Drive up. Apple must pull this policy-violated software suite down, immediately! Drives are in danger!

#sarcasm

Anyway, I am not sure if you really meant security or reliability. But the point is, how an app exposing an interface for users to manage files in its own iCloud container can be harmful at all? Now with this post policy-enforced version, users can only move files in and out between the iCloud container and the app's local storage, but not within iCloud container. LOL. It is just like Finder letting you move files into a volume, but not letting you move files around inside the volume. This is crazy from a modern UX standpoint.
 
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This is the impression I got. This is the biggest reason I now use Microsoft Office rather than iWork. Ms Office works with Dropbox, and works with dropbox properly. If i use iWork & iCloud, I have to ditch my organised folder structure and put all of my pages docs in one folder. Yeah, like thats gonna happen.

iCloud Drive is also the slowest thing I've ever tried to use.

Yup, and people had nerve to question why users pick Office over iWork, besides the fact iWork is child's toy in comparison and hardly anyone uses it, it relies on the joke that is iCloud

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It's good to see this developer complying with requirements that ensure the security of all iOS users valuable data stored in iCloud.

I understand some people do value functionality over security, but for the vast majority of people iOS is the number one choice because Apple emphasises protection of security and privacy.

And you're not even a stock holder which is the funniest part of this post
 
Dammit again? Why the hell doesn't app review evolve with the rest of the company? Apple is moving forward, but they are stuck in 2009 it seems.

Because app review is part of marketing. Software engineering appears to be moving forward. Marketing not so much.
 
Another recent example of Apple's disastrous App Store Team's misguided rules:

Reeder (Mac version) posted this remark on today's changelog:

"Had to remove to option to change the default RSS reader on OS X 10.10 Yosemite (not possible anymore for sandboxed apps)"

This merely a change in OS X 10.10. Sandboxed apps cannot change default applications, so removing the setting from Reeder merely removed a function that didn't work. This isn't an App Review-enforced change.
 
Yup, and people had nerve to question why users pick Office over iWork, besides the fact iWork is child's toy in comparison and hardly anyone uses it, it relies on the joke that is iCloud

I don't think iWork was ever meant to compete with MS Office. It's what iMovie is to Final Cut Pro, or GarageBand is to Logic Pro, or Bento (RIP) was to FileMaker. IWork is light productivity for "the rest of us".
 
So Apple wants iCloud to fail, good to know the monkeys in the boardroom have it all under control

Same with the Intel/Apple tie up and thunderbolt.Great idea that will ultimately be massacred by USB because the price is kept artificially high and they think the product will be special if it retains its niche status.

Loved Firewire, especially when it was possible to sync your iDevice with it.
 
Yup, and people had nerve to question why users pick Office over iWork, besides the fact iWork is child's toy in comparison and hardly anyone uses it, it relies on the joke that is

Using iWork without iCloud is a pleasure so far. With iCloud, it seems to be a nightmare.

"Pages cannot open this file!" when you are typing your half-completed report. Guess what next? You cannot save a new copy immediately when Pages clearly still has the copy in memory. Pages doesn't let you, blacken out all toolbars and buttons. You can just press OKAY the only button, and can never ever access your document again. Breaking into the file bundle? It didn't work - the zip is corrupted and cannot be unzipped into *.iwa. Look for an iCloud copy? It got synced to your devices immediately, so it doesn't help. Versioning? Does iWork ever support that *cough*?

You may say Time Machine, though I haven't had it at that time. But the fact is that I have never ever been blown up by Office Word, and even it crashed, Word still had a recovery copy. Maybe I was out of luck at that time, ugh. It was just 18 hours before the deadline.

:confused:
 
Reeder, iCloud, GoodReader

Reeder for OS X

Another recent example of Apple's disastrous App Store Team's misguided rules:

Reeder (Mac version) posted this remark on today's changelog:

At http://reederapp.com/mac/#faq there's a mention of iCloud in connection with RSS, but no sign of a disaster.

At https://twitter.com/reederapp/with_replies there's a picture of a baby, with a smile from the developer. Earlier the same day (2014-12-17), a mention of submission of 2.5.2 but no hint of disaster.

At http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/36087/reeder there's a prominent "HOORAY!!!!!!" from a reviewer of 2.0b5, and the more recent point about preferring a default RSS reader on Yosemite but again, no disaster.

Does Yosemite offer no way to set the preference?

Policies for, and customer experiences with, iCloud

… The developer called the iCloud usage policy "mandatory" …

That seems clear enough.

That's inferring that it was usable at some point and from my perspective it hasn't. …

A good point, and I'm sure that maflynn's perspective on iCloud is not isolated.

An unknown variety of use cases, an unknown variety of environments …

GoodReader for iOS

… I hate it when Apple does this. The app appeared to be doing just fine …

Maybe there was, or is, an unpublicised problem that does not affect all environments.

1. Publish App
2. Apple rejects …

Please imagine at least one significant thing between those two.

4.7.0 was released on 13 Nov, per App Store's record. The iCloud Drive support came around one week after iOS 8's grand release.…

Thanks.

Side note: iOS 8 (2014-09-17) is missing from the MacRumors roundup timeline for iOS 8.

… Apple must pull this policy-violated software suite down, immediately! Drives are in danger!

#sarcasm …

:)

Seriously, though … imagine a complex combination of systems serving a huge variety of environments through an unknown period of transition(s). If ever there's a risk to users' data, I expect that it'll be disclosed responsibly – to Apple, not publicised.

No excuse for this to be happening three months in. …

Has anyone asked the developer for his/her excuse?

Has the developer complained in public and if so, is there a link to that complaint?
 
I think you need to lay off the quote functionality. i didn't understand at all the point you were trying to make, it was too haphazard and all over the place.

A bit like Apple's overly restrictive policies towards iCloud.
 
Apple is doing an outstanding job so far in making sure iCloud Drive is useless and undesirable to consumers.

I thought the point of cloud drives was to make storage universal regardless of device or app being used. I understand security concerns but seems Apple could figure out a way to sandbox folders not created by an Apple app.
 
Maybe there was, or is, an unpublicised problem that does not affect all environments.
If other apps work well with folders and file management under the same API, I wonder why only GoodReader got pulled then. More importantly, it caused them to pull the feature off but not telling you "this is a temporary removal, we will add them back soon". This is unusual because it implies there is no workaround per Apple's request, or they would have fixed their implementation it.

Either we will see a sea of "No Folders, No Moving Files" updates in the near future. #DramaticMoment
 
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This is why I'm more than happy to wait a year or so to let Apple figure out what they want to do with iCloud Drive.

It's been a big disappointment to me with all the hidden folder for apps I don't even use.
 
Apple, keep crippling iCloud Drive/Documents and I, and many others, will continue to ignore it.

Precisely!

I'd like nothing better than to be happy and confident in iCloud, but I avoid it like the plague. At this point I don't care one wit about using it.

Apple... You're going out of your way to discourage loyal customers.

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This is why I'm more than happy to wait a year or so to let Apple figure out what they want to do with iCloud Drive.

It's been a big disappointment to me with all the hidden folder for apps I don't even use.

History reveals you'll wait until you throw up your hands in disgust...
 
I was using iCloud drive for a while, but the fact that on your computer and any desktop web browser it's a file storage system and on iOS it's an app backup and that's it made it very frustrating. Not to mention the number of times it took FOREVER to sync properly. Went back to Dropbox. Look for apps that use it. Much happier.
 
Has anyone asked the developer for his/her excuse?

Has the developer complained in public and if so, is there a link to that complaint?

Apple takes a dim view on developers who complain in the press and says so right in their app developer legal agreement.
 
It's good to see this developer complying with requirements that ensure the security of all iOS users valuable data stored in iCloud.

I understand some people do value functionality over security, but for the vast majority of people iOS is the number one choice because Apple emphasises protection of security and privacy.

What the hell are you talking about? What security? The only thing Apple is doing is making it "safe" for total idiots aka trying to do something impossible. If one tries to delete, transfer or in some other way manipulate file stored in iCloud Drive then that person should be able to do so without Apple trying disable that very basic functionality.

My bet is these features will be return to GoodReader within a week. Without this very basic functionality iCloud Drive is just a bad joke. Then again I guess Apple is really hard trying to make iCloud Drive just pile of crap. Apple should take a page from MS OneDrive playbook and see how you make a really good cloud storage.
 
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