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PDF Reader 'GoodReader' Removes iCloud Drive Functions to Comply with 'Mandatory' Apple Policy [Updated]
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Not all Mac users can, or want to, use OS X Yosemite for iCloud
Mac ≠ OS X Yosemite.
Mac ≠ OS X Yosemite.
This seems so stupid to me. Why even bother launching iCloud Drive at all if you're going to ensure it can't be used like a drive? This just looks like they're imposing the restrictions of iCloud on their new iCloud Drive implementation. Specifically, one of if not the major feature of Drive was that we'd get to create folders and move files around.
Not a story...
I really hope this isn't going to be a story every time apps get pulled for this same policy (that was already a story) or update their apps to comply with the policy (and then get another story if/when it gets put back)...
The authors of apps that use this feature are all wondering and probably planning for the possibility they get pulled (or if they should add the feature).
In all likelihood, this will get resolved eventually. Apple is either going to open up iCloud more or it's going to be easier to add other services (without adding iCloud).
Personally, I think they'll open up iCloud more, it's a potential revenue stream that they are really underutilizing by letting people pay for DropBox/Box/etc.
Once they start having photos use that same space and make it super convenient for people to use, it'll just be easier for people (not MacRumors readers, normal iUsers) to give Apple their money; give user 100 GB free for photos the first year and many will be hooked with the ease to store their photos.
Gary
I really hope this isn't going to be a story every time apps get pulled for this same policy (that was already a story) or update their apps to comply with the policy (and then get another story if/when it gets put back)...
The authors of apps that use this feature are all wondering and probably planning for the possibility they get pulled (or if they should add the feature).
In all likelihood, this will get resolved eventually. Apple is either going to open up iCloud more or it's going to be easier to add other services (without adding iCloud).
Personally, I think they'll open up iCloud more, it's a potential revenue stream that they are really underutilizing by letting people pay for DropBox/Box/etc.
Once they start having photos use that same space and make it super convenient for people to use, it'll just be easier for people (not MacRumors readers, normal iUsers) to give Apple their money; give user 100 GB free for photos the first year and many will be hooked with the ease to store their photos.
Gary
I think I can safely say this will be the worse thing I've been accused of in 2014. I certainly didn't mean to imply iCloud was ever usable!
Thanks for the keen observation and update.
I'm not familiar with GoodReader (don't have a compatible iOS) but it appears that Yuri Selukoff has already made at least one iCloud-related fix to the app.
Other fixes may be unpublicised.
Or did you mean, for Apple to release an app?
A fix to GoodReader and (off-topic) iCloud and alternatives
GoodReader
Loosely translated: respect for a policy, and a quick fix.
Alternatives to iCloud
iCloud Drive vs Google Drive, OneDrive, DropBox, and others there's a post from me.
GoodReader
Loosely translated: respect for a policy, and a quick fix.
Alternatives to iCloud
iCloud Drive vs Google Drive, OneDrive, DropBox, and others there's a post from me.
Yes, can confirm that the create folders and move items about option has been restored in the latest version released today. Have just tried it out.
Looks like Apple have been shamed into allowing these features once again. Common sense has finally prevailed, but how many times are we going to see this nonsense?
Shame?
Is it not more likely that the instability of the third party app (when trying to work with iCloud), and the fix for those crashes by the developer(s), were key elements in this minor episode?
Am I missing something?
Is it not more likely that the instability of the third party app (when trying to work with iCloud), and the fix for those crashes by the developer(s), were key elements in this minor episode?
Am I missing something?
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crash when opening iCloud containers with large number of files
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I'm genuinely puzzled. What about the earlier observation?
That seems explicit
I'm genuinely puzzled. What about the earlier observation?
"Fixed an issue that caused a crash when opening iCloud containers with large number of files"
That seems explicit
Oooh, humm, yeah. Think they should have specifically pointed out that iCloud was being removed to fix an issue in the meantime than!
Which is super frustrating, considering the changes Tim made were departments are supposed to be talking to each other more.
Opening an iCloud container has nothing to do with moving files or creating folders so no, it is not explicit.
This is no doubt a bug that once caused "instability", but this doesn't prove the enforcement on limiting file management capacities is appropriate after all. Let's put it in this way: would you pull the ability to create folders in Finder just because a fixable bug that caused Finder failed to handle folders with loads of files? IMHO they are not connected dots, and they would be only if you saw those pulled features coming back.
Anyway, I start to think if this is related to the unlimited depth of subdirectories in GoodReader. I remember app containers were said to be restricted to one level only back in October, and I've checked one app that supports iCloud Drive does adhere to this restriction, while one popular file manager doesn't. Let's see how this would turn out.
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Smart thanks.
Does opening the container (a directory file, presumably) involve filecoordinationd?
But doesn't involve saving or creating. The bug affects ALL of iCloud read operations but NO the write ones so no, it is not explicit.
Why would anyone be foolish enough to use iCloud? I let it take care of my photos with photo streams and back up my iOS devices that it does automatically, other then that I won't ever rely on iCloud for files
Correct, I agree completely. iCloud is totally and fundamentally flawed from the outset if this is a major factor in it. And anyone who still tries to defend Apple's appalling implementation of something that should have been really simple has to be bracketed alongside the likes of Comical Ali (or Baghdad Bob, as he was known in the US - just checked that on google, you learn something new every day
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Common sense and functionality are foreign concepts that often throw Apple for a loop. It's designed to challenge them and entertain us...