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Pegatron Chairman Says Lower-Cost iPhone Will Not Be Cheap

loon3y said:
4/S will be laggy as well on it too, it will be like a 3GS (which i still have, that i used for development) on iOS6, its extremely laggy.
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But much of this perceived "3GS lag" is just due to our expectations changing, having experienced the newer and faster hardware, isn't it?

I have a 3GS that still has iOS 4.3 on it. I remember it seeming very fast when I got it compared to the classic iPhone and the iPhone 3G. Yet now, even with that old and fast OS, it feels very slow compared to an iPhone 5 running iOS 6 or 7. I suspect iOS 6 is not really that much slower compared to iOS 4/5.

Pretty much any low-to-mid range Android phone is very laggy, too, compared to an iPhone 5 or a top-end Android like the Galaxy S4. Even the new models.
 
Well, if it looks like the one that was on iLounge, has a Retina screen and has a bit more weight and heft than the iPhone five, I'd happily shell out 350 quid unlocked for it…

Also, one question that strikes me is WHERE will apple actually sell this? They might be reserving it for developing markets such as Brazil, China or India…
 

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umbriell said:
The screen size is the same. Dimensions are ostensibly the same. If the innards are going to be similar too then why wouldn't everyone buy this phone instead of the 5s?
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No true Apple Fan would even consider a cheap plastic phone. If they would, then they might as well get a Galaxy S4 and get a better screen, But touching plastic would make them retch every time, so they will stay with the luxurious feel of aluminum, thankyouverymuch. /s

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petsounds said:
It's hard to "double-down on secrecy" when even the chairman of a manufacturer of your products can't keep his mouth shut. Jobs would've just fired them for that insubordination, cost be damned.
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Steve would have chosen the course of action which would have raked in maximum moolah. Every time.

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4TheLoveOfTech said:
Your logic fails considering the worldwide smartphone market share.
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What he fails to consider is that the vast majority of smartphone buyers reject the iPhone. For whatever reason. Too expensive? Tiny screen? Yesterday's news? Whatever. The trendlines do not look good at this point.
 
I'm guessing this phone will replace the older models we normally see subsidized for free or $100.

Right now, you have an older 4, and old 4S, or the new larger screened 5 to choose from. All possibly running different versions of iOS. Developers needing to accommodate all of these.

When the 5S launches, I'm guessing we'll have a choice of 5S, 5 for $100, and these plastic ones for free or maybe $50. You'll get standardized screen sizes and similar specs for everyone purchasing one. This will make developing a lot easier going forward.

And like others mentioned they won't have to manufacturer legacy parts for the 4 and 4S, just for the ones out at that time which will probably be using similar parts.
 
jakebot said:
I still don't understand the need for this. We already have this as the iPhone 4 and 4S, and soon the iPhone 5 will be in this category once the 5S is released. Why waste resources designing an entirely new product when they already have older iPhones they sell for less with no additional costs to build.
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I think Apple needs to do this to get fingerprint on all models.
 
4TheLoveOfTech said:
Darn, those are pens? I should have smiled more at our last company Christmas party when my VP of sales gave me a box set of two.
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Are they slimy enough for you? I mean, as a cheap plastic product, that follows inevitably, eh?
 
iGrip said:
No true Apple Fan would even consider a cheap plastic phone. If they would, then they might as well get a Galaxy S4 and get a better screen, But touching plastic would make them retch every time, so they will stay with the luxurious feel of aluminum, thankyouverymuch. /s
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Indeed, iPhone users love the luxurious feel of aluminum...as they then proceed to put a plastic case over it.
 
bondsbw said:
I never understood the obsession with a lower-cost version of the iPhone.

When the 5S comes out, the lower-cost versions will be the 5 and 4S.

This has worked just fine in the past, I don't see why Apple would put much of an effort behind another product to fill the same gap.
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No need to sell the iPhone 4S anymore, replace it with the "cheap" iPhone,

Then you have 3 base models, 3 base points, all with 1 screen size :eek:
 
bondsbw said:
I never understood the obsession with a lower-cost version of the iPhone.

When the 5S comes out, the lower-cost versions will be the 5 and 4S.

This has worked just fine in the past, I don't see why Apple would put much of an effort behind another product to fill the same gap.
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Because not everyone can afford a $700 phone. Outside of America locked and unlocked iphones cost the same in a lot of countries. So why not offer the ios experience to people on a budget.
 
That's ridiculous. Low cost is by definition cheap(er).

500$-700$ is not cheap and defiantly not low-cost.

If they want to compete with the low end Android devices it should be ideally in the in the 100$-150$ range(wishful thinking) but they are Apple so low-cost should be within 200$-300$ range otherwise most people will just get a cheap Android Phone for 99$ and complain why it is crappy.
 
This will definitely be much cheaper than an iPhone 5. Not really low-cost, but half of the iPhone 5 price tag can't hurt, can it?
 
Reason077 said:
But much of this perceived "3GS lag" is just due to our expectations changing, having experienced the newer and faster hardware, isn't it?

I have a 3GS that still has iOS 4.3 on it. I remember it seeming very fast when I got it compared to the classic iPhone and the iPhone 3G. Yet now, even with that old and fast OS, it feels very slow compared to an iPhone 5 running iOS 6 or 7. I suspect iOS 6 is not really that much slower compared to iOS 4/5.

Pretty much any low-to-mid range Android phone is very laggy, too, compared to an iPhone 5 or a top-end Android like the Galaxy S4. Even the new models.
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its not expectations, the older devices simply cannot handle the newer iOS,

lol its the fact that iOS6 is "faster" on iphone 5 or whatever ur thinking.

to even pull up a keyboard takes time, with a 3GS on iOS6.

its like running windows 7 on a single 3.4GHz processor with 1.5 GB of ram,

its just not going to cut it.
 
it's all about "how to make more money", i thought that apple was finally listening to it's customers and bringing out a cheaper iphone.
 
loon3y said:
its not expectations, the older devices simply cannot handle the newer iOS,

lol its the fact that iOS6 is "faster" on iphone 5 or whatever ur thinking.

to even pull up a keyboard takes time, with a 3GS on iOS6.

its like running windows 7 on a single 3.4GHz processor with 1.5 GB of ram,

its just not going to cut it.
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When the 3GS was new, we all thought it was really fast. Yet now, a 3GS running iOS *4*, feels much slower than running iOS 7 on an iPhone 5. There is plenty of lag pulling up a keyboard on a 3GS, even on that old OS!

So, it's not just that old hardware runs slower on new OS's. It's also that our expectations/perceptions of what "fast" is have evolved.
 
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Reason077 said:
When the 3GS was new, we all thought it was really fast. Yet now, a 3GS running iOS *4*, feels much slower than running iOS 7 on an iPhone 5. There is plenty of lag pulling up a keyboard on a 3GS, even on that old OS!

So, it's not just that old hardware runs slower on new OS's. It's also that our expectations/perceptions of what "fast" is have evolved.
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lol, so ur saying with the new OS's multi tasking, notification center, etc etc that it doesnt need more processing power and ram?


lol of course iOS 4 lags on a 3GS, iOS 4 was made and released with the iPhone 4.

point proven, and there was no lag on the 3GS when i first got it, how do i know? because i remember and apple would never put out a product like that lags while pulling the keyboard? cmon dude, thats the sole reason why at first i chose the iphone/ios over androidos/crap phones (atleast back then).



your conception is totally wrong, my 3GS when i first bought it which was ran on iOS 3, there was no lag pulling the keyboard, and if there was why the hell would apple put out a OS and product that would lags on a simple function like the keyboard? lol optimizing the keyboard to pull up on launch OS with the device isnt hard at all. actually i wouldnt even buy a phone that would lag on such a simple function.

lol ridiculous, no offense but you have no idea what you're talking about. my iPhone 4S lags on the iOS6, why? because its a newer OS running on an older device. it didnt LAG when i first got it with iOS5.


i do know what you're talking about but this isnt the case. and i spend alot of time on the iphone not for personal use but for work to test and develop apps
 
Of course, it is frigging Apple, they sell a desktop with a 1GHz processor inside it for 1000$ (of course exageration, but you get my point, I am running, the fastest GPU, fast CPU, and it is still cheaper that iCrap.
 
loon3y said:
lol, so ur saying with the new OS's multi tasking, notification center, etc etc that it doesnt need more processing power and ram?


lol of course iOS 4 lags on a 3GS, iOS 4 was made and released with the iPhone 4.

point proven, and there was no lag on the 3GS when i first got it, how do i know?
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Compared to an iPhone 5 today, a 3GS was much slower - even when it first came out.

If you want to see it for yourself, get a 3GS with a fresh install of an old iOS (e.g. 4.3). Then compare it side by side with an iPhone 5 running iOS 6.

In fact, I have a set up like that right here. There is simply nothing to argue about: the iPhone 5 is much faster than a 3GS, regardless of what iOS the 3GS is running.

lol ridiculous, no offense but you have no idea what you're talking about. my iPhone 4S lags on the iOS6, why? because its a newer OS running on an older device. it didnt LAG when i first got it with iOS5.
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A 4S does not "lag" running iOS 6. It runs iOS 6 just fine. It is slower than an iPhone 5 because it has a slower CPU.
 
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