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Pegatron to Deliver CDMA iPhone 4s to Apple in Q4?
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CDMA isnt going anywhere in the next 5 years at least. Much longer than the useful lifetime of an iphone. Apple could sell 10 million iphones on VZW in a few months. Do the math, that's a lot of cash for Jobs & co.
http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/cdma_world_subscriber.asp
Don't know about you but why would you pass up on a 522 million subscriber market?
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Don't know about you but why would you pass up on a 522 million subscriber market?
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This is it exactly. A huge part of the iPhone is getting people hooked into the "ecosystem". Onve you start sounding money on apps it makes you less likely to dump the iPhone for the next best thing. Same goes for Android though. If people start getting hooked into Google's ecosystem, it becomes harder to convert them in the future. They need to get the iPhone available to as many customers as possible in the next 18 months or so or they will lose real ground to Android, in my opinion. The 90m Verizon cusomters, plus the 40m Sprint users, that a CDMA phone would open up to Apple is worth whatever costs they incur.
I'd Be happy
if this were true and an iPhone was coming to Verizon. I just preordered 2 iPhone 4's for my parents who have AT&T, but I refuse to give in and get rid of Verizon.
In the past couple days it has looked up for Verizon customers with this as well as Maiorana saying that a Verizon iPhone is "inevitable and is a matter of when not if".
if this were true and an iPhone was coming to Verizon. I just preordered 2 iPhone 4's for my parents who have AT&T, but I refuse to give in and get rid of Verizon.
In the past couple days it has looked up for Verizon customers with this as well as Maiorana saying that a Verizon iPhone is "inevitable and is a matter of when not if".
I don't care about a Verizon iPhone, mainly because here in northern New Jersey I get amazing service and internet that is almost twice as fast as Verizon. In school, me and my friend did one of those speed tests where we went to a website at the same time, he has a droid, and his took so much longer then mine. I am happy with AT&T, never had a problem with them. Also, a CDMA phone doesn't mean a Verizon phone; I'm pretty sure Verizon isn't the only CDMA network in the world...
While obviously skeptical, think about this: If AT&T knew that Apple was going to eventually go to Verizon as well wouldn't you want to get as many people as possible to sign into a 2 year contract BEFORE the announce of a verizon iphone. It would make sense for AT&T to allow early eligibility for customers not otherwise eligible because they want that new contract to be with them instead of verizon whom they could leave to if they had allowed them to wait out their contract. It all makes sense now...
Great Timing....Verizon Conspirators!
Once again, this rumor comes out of 'no where' (probably came from some disgruntled Verizon supporters) right at the same time a new wave of customers want to defect from Verizon. Yes, give your current customers some false hope once again to defer/delay the exodus.
Once again, this rumor comes out of 'no where' (probably came from some disgruntled Verizon supporters) right at the same time a new wave of customers want to defect from Verizon. Yes, give your current customers some false hope once again to defer/delay the exodus.
i dont think they will introduce it without a good event to go with it, so it will probably be introduced in 2011 with the "new iPhone".
but i still don't like all this Nonsense!
but i still don't like all this Nonsense!
Even if Verizon's LTE network were up and running today, it will not be nationwide until 2013. Unless you really think that Verizon is going to say "oh, you can only use that LTE phone in an urban area otherwise it doesn't work", I think you guys are a bit delusional.
And waiting 3 years until LTE IS nationwide is even sillier. Look at how far Android has come in only a year and a half. And consider the fact that at some point Apple is going to hit a wall in terms of people willing to put up with AT&T.
Make no mistake, CDMA will have to be supported at some point. The market of Verizon + Sprint (140 million subscribers) is way to tempting to give up, and that's not even factoring in China and Japan.
And waiting 3 years until LTE IS nationwide is even sillier. Look at how far Android has come in only a year and a half. And consider the fact that at some point Apple is going to hit a wall in terms of people willing to put up with AT&T.
Make no mistake, CDMA will have to be supported at some point. The market of Verizon + Sprint (140 million subscribers) is way to tempting to give up, and that's not even factoring in China and Japan.
this data is a few years old...
"For the first time, there is now more than one mobile service for every Australian, with 21.26 million mobile phone services in operation at 30 June 2007"
That is just noise compared to the close to 300+ Million CDMA subscribers in the US and Asia.
GL
This might explain why AT&T was so generous with their upgrade terms, and let some current iPhone users get out of their contracts early with little to no penalty.
It's just like the iPad. Most everyone I've talked to about it thinks it's worthless, just a big iPod Touch... And for most people that's about it. But Apple's selling millions of them.
Regardless of whether or not CDMA is a viable long term solution, Apple will sell millions of the iPhones to VZW customers.
Apple is a business. The goal of business is to make money. Apple will make money on this.
I have no interest in a Verizon iPhone but I'm now hoping Apple produces and sells a CDMA phone. The more people that leave AT&T, the better my service will be. Win-win.
Well said. Hear hear!
I could care less if Apple decides to release a CDMA version. They can release an iTelegraph for all I care.
iCarrierPigeon.
iPencil.
Sell 'em all on Verizon.
Jobs said it in his interview recently, that AT&T took a huge chance by betting on the iPhone. There have been massive growing pains, but that's just part of the deal. As a consumer, you either choose to deal with it, or you leave.
I'm one of the people who choose to stick around and watch the show. I like being part of it. AT&T has not ruined my life, lost me business, or made things somehow harder for me. I know there are people out there with negative experiences, but there are terrible experiences with EVERY carrier.
I love the iPhone. I want it, carrier warts and all.
AT&T hooked a tiger by the tail with the iPhone. If it had been Verizon to partner with the iPhone first, all the snark would be reversed right now.
So bring it on, spread the love, if you want a CDMA iPhone, and they decide to make one, go getcha one. And I sincerely hope you love it as much as I love my AT&T GSM iPhone.
I can already see the commercials now:
"The best smartphone is now on the country's best network. Come join in on the excitement"
Hahaha.
I may stay with AT&T unless Verizon can do better with data plans.
Think about it, iPhone will basically take over the country if they do start selling through Verizon. I think the iPhone will quickly overtake the Motorola Razor as the most common cell phone. You'll be hard pressed to not find someone with an iPhone.
"The best smartphone is now on the country's best network. Come join in on the excitement"
Hahaha.
I may stay with AT&T unless Verizon can do better with data plans.
Think about it, iPhone will basically take over the country if they do start selling through Verizon. I think the iPhone will quickly overtake the Motorola Razor as the most common cell phone. You'll be hard pressed to not find someone with an iPhone.
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I used to be happy with AT&T, but as my dropped calls have gone up and my download speeds have gone down, I am getting more and more frustrated. I love iPhone 4, but I don't think I want another 2 years of this subpar service (why is quality getting worse??). So if this is true, I'll gladly hold off. But people have been saying this for years now... I'll believe it when I see it.
I used to be happy with AT&T, but as my dropped calls have gone up and my download speeds have gone down, I am getting more and more frustrated. I love iPhone 4, but I don't think I want another 2 years of this subpar service (why is quality getting worse??). So if this is true, I'll gladly hold off. But people have been saying this for years now... I'll believe it when I see it.
You're assuming Ive lived in New Zealand all my life.
I used Verizon when I lived in America (New York, so it wasn't some insignificant city or anything). Got a phone of theirs as a recommendation from a cousin. Their reception was reliable, but bloody hell, try calling them in person and you may as well buy a new phone or change carrier.
Android's market is going to grow regardless if Apple makes a CDMA iPhone.
There is one (if im reading the info right) ONE actual company with CDMA towers in China and Japan.
Jeez, these rumors are insane. When will Verizon be getting the iPhone? When Chairman Mao ZeJobs says so. I seriously doubt he would mention it in September since that's not at all an iPhone centered event. Maybe around the Macworld timeframe, since they no longer participate in it.
My bet is on a CDMA iPhone being released at 24 September 2010, exactly 3 months after the GSM launch. If it will be on Verizon or Sprint is entirely up to Verizon's management, if they're ready to let go of their demands. Apple will not budge, as even a Sprint launch could offer them 50 million new potential customers.
That would be great. Then we we'll start seeing all the posts about how Verizon sucks once they get hammered like AT&T.
No kidding. Big time leak would be coming. It makes sense that it could happen with ATT giving early upgrades and increasing their etf. Personally I'm done signing contracts with any of them.
2007 + 5 year exclusive contract with at&t = 2012.
cdma = no voice & data at the same time a key feature of the iphone.
lte = at&t and verizon's (not to mention t-mobile, vodaphone, and china telecom) next generation cellular technology. verizon begins roll out this year with completion set for 2013. at&t will start roll-out in 2011
do the math.
apple will sacrifice a lot in the name of simplicity, be it interface design or the retail shopping experience. they notoriously "knifed the baby" when they deleted firewire from the ipod despite being the creator of the standard and firewire being superior to usb, all in the name of retail simplicity (e.g. the only choice the shopper had to make was color and capacity, no technical knowledge). a cdma phone complicates every stage of the phone - design and development, prototyping, testing, production, marketing, retail, shrinkage, returns, support, warranty, repairs, logistics, partners, contracts and probably a dozen other things i'm not thinking of.
best guess there is a cdma version of each iphone, much like os x on intel, taken to a certain level of development and kept in reserve just in case there is a major problem with gsm carriers and/or iphone sales start to decline precipitously. it would be shocking to find apple doesn't have a minimum quarterly sales target for at&t that allows apple out of their contractual obligation. all the reports are based on these prototypes and possible apple enquiring to manufacturer's capacity as a fall back scenario.
but it's not like apple is struggling to sell iphones right now. january 2012 an lte iphone announced available on at&t, verizon, t-mobile. jobs' trademark "one more thing" biplane - a new version of airport with an lte radio embedded allowing you to ditch or augment your home cable/dsl/dialup" ok that probably isn't going to happen, but the 2012 lte phone will.
cdma = no voice & data at the same time a key feature of the iphone.
lte = at&t and verizon's (not to mention t-mobile, vodaphone, and china telecom) next generation cellular technology. verizon begins roll out this year with completion set for 2013. at&t will start roll-out in 2011
do the math.
apple will sacrifice a lot in the name of simplicity, be it interface design or the retail shopping experience. they notoriously "knifed the baby" when they deleted firewire from the ipod despite being the creator of the standard and firewire being superior to usb, all in the name of retail simplicity (e.g. the only choice the shopper had to make was color and capacity, no technical knowledge). a cdma phone complicates every stage of the phone - design and development, prototyping, testing, production, marketing, retail, shrinkage, returns, support, warranty, repairs, logistics, partners, contracts and probably a dozen other things i'm not thinking of.
best guess there is a cdma version of each iphone, much like os x on intel, taken to a certain level of development and kept in reserve just in case there is a major problem with gsm carriers and/or iphone sales start to decline precipitously. it would be shocking to find apple doesn't have a minimum quarterly sales target for at&t that allows apple out of their contractual obligation. all the reports are based on these prototypes and possible apple enquiring to manufacturer's capacity as a fall back scenario.
but it's not like apple is struggling to sell iphones right now. january 2012 an lte iphone announced available on at&t, verizon, t-mobile. jobs' trademark "one more thing" biplane - a new version of airport with an lte radio embedded allowing you to ditch or augment your home cable/dsl/dialup" ok that probably isn't going to happen, but the 2012 lte phone will.
Agreed. I won't believe it until I hear it from Steve or Johny. That being said there should be an iPod event on the horizon 'round about September, they could announce it then and be on schedule with this rumor.