iPad Pencil 2 tip is greatly improved

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  1. rowspaxe macrumors 68000

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    After watch numerous you tube videos saying the pencil 2 tip was the same as the pencil 1,
    i had opportunity to try it out in the Apple Store today. Pencil 2 tip is much softer, with enhanced drag.
    Dare I say it--it feels like Surface pen! I love it. Has anyone else noticed this?
    Does anyone know if the replacement 4 pack tips are more like the pencil 1 or pencil 2. Almost
    tempted to buy the pencil 2 just to swap the tip onto my pencil 1. Shocked no one has
    discussed this in multiple MR threads.
     
  2. neutrino23 macrumors 68000

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    It seems better with the new iPad. I suspect it has to do with the surface of the iPad, not the tip.
     
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    rowspaxe thread starter macrumors 68000

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    No its the tip, definitely. Just look at the tips! or drag the new pencil on the ipad
    2017. Its clearly the tip
     
  4. RevTEG macrumors 6502a

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    I can't tell any difference in the actual tips. I have both pencils and the tips look and feel identical to me. I can tell that my 3rd get iPad offers a somewhat better writing experience from my 2015 gen one. I think its the iPad thats different not the tips. I haven't seen any reports that the tips on gen 2 are any different than the gen 1 tips. That would make for a good read.
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    Does Apple sell different tips for each gen pencil?
     
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    rowspaxe thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Touching my thumb nail to each pencil tip its clear to me the pencil 2 is much softer and rubber-ry--the pencil 1 hard and plastic. Also--its unclear to me how the glass could be different--2018 glass
    feels very smooth with no tooth.
    There is only 1 tip replacement pack

    Shocked how under reported this is--every review I have seen says the pencil 1 & 2
    experiences are indestiguishable, except for form factor...and dumb double tap
    feature
     
  6. RevTEG macrumors 6502a

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    2018 iPad pros have better latency that the previous iPads. That’s the writing difference you’re seeing and “feeling”. Tips are the same.
     
  7. subjonas macrumors 68000

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    If the tips are different, and there’s only one replacement pack, they must sell the new tip replacements. Wouldn’t make any sense to only sell the old ones, unless they’re jerks.

    Either that or they’re the same tips.
     
  8. rowspaxe thread starter macrumors 68000

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    I am pretty sure it's going to cost me $19 to get to the bottom of this

    could be...but Totally contrary to my in store impression. Calls for a second visit.
    Have to admit, the 12.9" 2018 is pretty amazing "in person".
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    I can feel the difference without looking at the ipad--it feels rubbery
     
  9. sneak3 macrumors 6502a

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    i doubt they would update the replacement tip pack..I think they would unload the 1st gen tips first
     
  10. rowspaxe thread starter macrumors 68000

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    That the replacement pack came out before 2018 leads me to agree with you. If the pencil 2 tipd
    is different, best case is they have a back inventory of pencil 1 tip replacement packs.

    I have to go back to the Apple store this week and reassess. Clearly something is different
    and I can't imagine how ipad glass could be the reason. Sure I'll get a lot attention from
    the staff when I bring the pencil 1 over to the 2018 ipad table. Mostly the Apple folks are very
    nice.
     
  11. AlexiTQ macrumors member

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    I tested both the new and old tips with my 2018 Pro. The new tips do feel softer and have slightly more drag. However, I don't think the tips make up for all of the difference. It's a very slight difference when drawing - the old iPad Pro's are still a lot more slippery.
     
  12. sneak3 macrumors 6502a

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    you think theyve changed the glass itself?
     
  13. AlexiTQ macrumors member

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    No, I think they've used a different coating on the glass.
     
  14. netdudeuk macrumors 6502

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    Can you be sure that these pens don't scratch the screens at all ?
     
  15. rowspaxe thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Pencil came out in 2015, and I haven't seen any reviews saying that it does cause scratching
     
  16. A.R.E.A.M. macrumors 6502

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    The pencil tips are the same. I have both pencils and first gen tips from when I bought the first gen 12.9 LTE ipad. I just put on an old new stock pencil tip that came in the box with the first gen and it feels the same. :rolleyes:
     
  17. Seed101 macrumors 6502

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    Dunno if whether it's the tip or screen (or my imagination :D ) but the pencil feels different on 12.9.
    I bought a matte screen protector for some 'drag' on the 1st gen as it felt/feels slippy..I don't feel I need to with the new one.
     
  18. rowspaxe thread starter macrumors 68000

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    This is a little garbled... did you do an a to b comparison with pencil 2 & 2018 ipp
    vs pencil 1 with 2017 ipp first?
     
  19. LibbyLA macrumors 6502

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    I compared my pencil 1 tip and my pencil 2 tip by touching them, trying to bend them. They feel the same to me.
     
  20. mr_jomo macrumors newbie

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    Just did the same comparison between a 2017 pencil tip and the one on my 2018 pencil 2. The tips literally feel identical to me: same form, color, smoothness to the touch, stiffness under pressure, same sound and bounce when touching a hard surface etc.

    If there are any improvements, they seem too subtle IMHO to matter under normal use.
     
  21. rowspaxe thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Were you able to compare the write/draw experience between the ipp 2017 and ipp 2018 ipp?
     
  22. mr_jomo macrumors newbie

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    I tested the tactile feeling this morning on a 10.5 IPP and a 2018 12.9 IPP using both a 2017 ver. 1 and 2018 ver. 2 pen.

    To my senses at least they were 1:1 matched in terms of the physical sensation (resistance, sound when hitting the IPP, drag, flex etc.).
     
  23. rowspaxe thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Thanks for testing. I find the ipp 2017 vs 2018 pencil experiences very different, but its good to have
    more feedback
     

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