Current non-Apple 16GB ram kit is $700. New 800MHz ram 16GB kit will be $999 - I called to ask. Anything else you don't order from Apple either. So you're "guesstimate" is radically off base.
I know, just kidding there. Those RAM prices are insane.
Current non-Apple 16GB ram kit is $700. New 800MHz ram 16GB kit will be $999 - I called to ask. Anything else you don't order from Apple either. So you're "guesstimate" is radically off base.
The mobile penryn is due in january next year.
No. I think Tuesday November 13 the day after Intel lifts their "no sales allowed" embargo with their "Penryns Are Shipping" press event Monday November 12.Are we still hoping for a MacPro announcement in three days?
No. I think Tuesday November 13 the day after Intel lifts their "no sales allowed" embargo with their "Penryns Are Shipping" press event Monday November 12.
No reason why they wouldn't be able to.Serisously? If Apple announces November 13th, would it ship that day you think?
DoubtfulWell hopefully Apple makes an announcement before Leopard to hype it even more.![]()
Intel has to be even handed among their many customers. All Penryn products are embargoed from being sold until Monday November 12. That 3GHz Clovertown exclusive was long after that family had been available for sale. This is a new family premiere.Intel likes Apple don't they? I thought they could possibly get the stuff before anyone else and release early? Or is it that there aren't enough quantities produced yet?
Intel has to be even handed among their many customers. All Penryn products are embargoed from being sold until Monday November 12. That 3GHz Clovertown exclusive was long after that family had been available for sale. This is a new family premiere.
I don't think so. Besides where's the window for that to happen before November 13? All the other weeks are already booked.Ahhhhhh, but Intel could still allow Apple to announce before hand, that it will be shipping 11/12, right?
I think that you've hit the crux of the argument for the mini-tower. These aren't "pro machines" with "maximum power" for the "pro target market".
The mini-tower would be for people who could get by with an Imac, but don't want an all-in-one for any of the good reasons not to get an all-in-one. Or any of the good reasons not to get an Imac....
It would be for people who need something more than an Imac (second or third hard drive or optical, quad core, more RAM, expandable graphics, extra PCIe slots...), but who don't need the humonguous expensive Mac Pro maxi-tower.
It would be for people who don't live in McMansions, and need a more compact system for an office or dorm room or studio apartment.
It could even be for the many professionals who truly can't use more than a couple of cores today, or who don't need the expandability of the Mac Pro.
(MM - you have blinders on as far as the "pro apps" using lots of cores. The media apps that are important to you are nicely threaded, but many other pro apps are not and some of them may never be. Look at the set of Photoshop filters that are not MP-aware.
Many tasks and programs are sequential in nature, and are difficult or impossible to parallelize to a great extent. Look at Amdahl's Law for more information on the limits of parallelization.)
HP can put a compact quad core, 3 GiB, Gigabit ethernet system on the shelves for $800. Why can't Apple give people a choice between the limitations of the Imac and the overkill of the Mac Pro. (Especially since so many people are saying "all 8-core" for the new Mac Pro.)
ps: Since "CPU" and "processor" are ambiguous, I use the unambiguous "single socket" to refer to a desktop Conroe/Kentsfield system.
Me too. I wonder what they're going to be whining when the new 8 cores come out at the same price as the 4 cores now.You know it just kills me every time someone says "MAC PRO = EXPENSIVE" I would like someone to find me a manufacture who makes a quad core xeon workstation that is less expensive than the mac pro because I can't even build one for cheaper then Apple sells them.
BTW already checked dell the cheapest they offer the dual xeon 2.66 machine with same specs as mac pro is over $2,800
You know it just kills me every time someone says "MAC PRO = EXPENSIVE" I would like someone to find me a manufacture who makes a quad core xeon workstation that is less expensive than the mac pro because I can't even build one for cheaper then Apple sells them.
BTW already checked dell the cheapest they offer the dual xeon 2.66 machine with same specs as mac pro is over $2,800
I don't think apple would release the Mac Pros in January having Macworld expo so close. They always release their pro based Macs at least one month prior to Macworld expo.I don't think so. Besides where's the window for that to happen before November 13? All the other weeks are already booked.
Next week is the Q3 financial report + Leopard is coming week.
The following week is Halloween and Leopard kicks ass week.
Then the 4GB Santa Rosa X3100 IG Merom MacBook November 6.
So there's really no other date for the announcement to get the INK Apple always generates by staggering each move announcement from week to week.
If it doesn't happen November 13 it's not going to happen until January 15. The following week is Thanksgiving and Black Friday. But I can't see Apple waiting that long to finish the year without ever revising the Summer 2006 Mac Pro lineup. I think that would be some sort of non-change record they don't want to make any longer than it already is.
So I think if supply is a problem, we'll just have to tuff it out at the beginning of the new sales cycle. At least we'll know they're on the way which is a lot better than the dark we're in now.
I'm buying one as soon as Apple says "go". It's been a long wait.![]()
Since there is no mention of a case redesign, are most people assuming that they'll stick with the same enclosure and just get a new logic board?
Current non-Apple 16GB ram kit is $700. New 800MHz ram 16GB kit will be $999 - I called to ask. Anything else you don't order from Apple either. So you're "guesstimate" is radically off base.
Yes I have 4GB in my Quad G5 from Omni that have never been a problem. I haven't added to my Mac Pro yet. But we've had several Omni customers post here they are fine. All you have to do is call Omni and ask them about their lifetime replacement policy etc. Why ask me when you can ask them yourself? I know they are good people.Are you currently running any memory from Omni or know if it's reliable? I got bad memory from OWC for an iMac, and I've been afraid to switch from Crucial since.
I haven't heard anything about Omni (Optival) in a Pro, so thanks in advance if you have any experience with it. It sounds just fine to me, but hey, what do I know? nothing...
I just clicked around an online store and had a system similar to the base ($2500) mac pro...I don't want to speak for Aiden, but when people say the MP is expensive they don't tend to be saying it's an expensive dual socket workstation, they are saying it's alot to pay to have a desktop mac that isn't the mini or iMac. Also as it's older technology a quad core system (single socket) can now be had alot cheaper than $2,500+.
Keep sliding...I just clicked around an online store and had a system similar to the base ($2500) mac pro...
Core 2 Quad 2.66 GHz, 2x512MB DDR2-667, 250GB, 7300GT 256MB, 18x DVD burner, keyboard/mouse, and XP Pro OEM: $1249 after shipping and before tax.
(I didn't even try to make it EXACTLY half the price of the Mac Pro...)
So yes, the Mac Pro is expensive...