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Oh wow, this is a pleasure to wake up to! A real, honest to God, Mac rumor, and it's the Mac Pro! Brings a tear to my eye...no wait, that's just morning gunk.

Dude, it's 1:30 in the afternoon, and you're just waking up? Get a job, and get up a little earlier! ;)
 
This is driving me crazy! I don't know when or if to sell my current system. I don't know if it'll sell for an amount that will allow me to buy a new one. I don't know if the new ones will be released with new displays, or whether i'll be stuck without a display for a while. Why can't Apple just announce things way in advance like normal companies?

They do announce things in advance (sortof).... we just speculate even further in advance :)

If you can't handle the emotional ups and downs we can build you a firewall that blocks appleinsider, 9to5mac, macrumors, thinksecret etc.... then you can just keep checking apple.com until products come out :p
 
This is driving me crazy! I don't know when or if to sell my current system. I don't know if it'll sell for an amount that will allow me to buy a new one. I don't know if the new ones will be released with new displays, or whether i'll be stuck without a display for a while. Why can't Apple just announce things way in advance like normal companies?


That's how things are. It has been that way for many, many years. It won't change anytime soon.
I am waiting, once Apple announces the new machine and hopefully displays, I will buy it transfer all my files to it then sell my old system on eBay or Craigslist. Just enjoy the ride!:D
 
Currently any configuration of the Mac Pro via the Apple Store ships in 2 - 4 days at the most. We have not heard of any distributors or retailers receiving notification of supply constraints or the "EOL - End of Life" notifications.

I think that an announcement will be forthcoming next week or on November 13 after the Intel embargo is lifted.

They will not ship immediately, Intel will have to ramp the production and Apple will have to do the assembly of the systems.

With Leopard right around the corner, it is only going to help drive additional sales of the Mac Pro line in it's current configurations, Apple will take advantage of this sales enabler for the balance of the year thereby maximizing sales of Leopard and clearing existing inventory. They will release the updated Mac Pro line in 2008.
 
Currently any configuration of the Mac Pro via the Apple Store ships in 2 - 4 days at the most. We have not heard of any distributors or retailers receiving notification of supply constraints or the "EOL - End of Life" notifications.

I think that an announcement will be forthcoming next week or on November 13 after the Intel embargo is lifted.

They will not ship immediately, Intel will have to ramp the production and Apple will have to do the assembly of the systems.

With Leopard right around the corner, it is only going to help drive additional sales of the Mac Pro line in it's current configurations, Apple will take advantage of this sales enabler for the balance of the year thereby maximizing sales of Leopard and clearing existing inventory. They will release the updated Mac Pro line in 2008.

Oh, How I would LOVE that! I hope you're right.

But my problem is that if they come out before my system is sold, then I can't afford it. I literally cannot place an order for a Mac Pro before selling my current one. I don't have the money. However, Apple would not announce new Mac Pros 2 months before they ship. So it's either: Announce in October ship in november, or just wait till MWSF and announce there and ship immedietaly.
 
I think it's very likely that there will be some update of the display line as well - either a refresh or a total redesign. It definitely needs a redesign, thinner and sleeker - and is as much (over) due as the mac pro - luckily, all displays have been updated every time the mac pro has seen an update (except for one time in 2003 i think it was).

Since there has been no news regarding a new Mac Pro tower design, I do doubt that there will be a new design for the ACDs. But with the iMac being thinner and sleeker than the ACD's while it carry a powerfull computer on the inside, ACDs needs to be updated. Simple as that

Steve will also have a real screen to show off his Leopard then ;)

Exactly..I think an "All-New" Mac Pro and an "All-New" ACD is needed. Apple hasn't update the look of these two product lines for a long time.

Nevertheless, I think this is not likely to happen since there has been no related news of this kind spreading among the rumor websites..

Sigh...
 
My mate who works in the Apple staff canteen which is where Steve hangs out surrounded by the newest hardware, said that when he was serving Steve his pancake and nuttella, he looked inside the new Mac Pro and it had lots of processors all bunched together, with the G3 logo on each one. Said he saw 20 +.
 
I doubt that. Apple would not hold onto a chip for 3 months when it's available for anyone Mid-November. Expect a new MacPro in a few weeks.

Especially when it's already long overdue an update. I'm sure that ordinarily they would have tried to boost sales over the last few months by a slight price drop, or better graphics cards, if it wasn't for the fact that releases like CS3 have probably made it unnecessary.

A new case design would be interesting, but for me that Mac Pro internal update compared to the PowerMac G5 is everything I need. If a smaller case means less expansion capabilities then I would be very upset - only fitting 2 hard drives into a G5 was a real inconvenience for me (it's not just having external hard drives, it's the extra power sockets, the power bricks they require etc. I buy a tower to avoid stuff like that...).
 
Could it be..?

I hope this update is what you guys have all been waiting for. Perhaps the rumour hysteria will finally come to an end. I fell victim to the hysteria back in FEB 2007:eek:. In fact, I cancelled my mac pro order due to the "imminent" release of the all 8-core mac pros...:p Got the dual dual core back in April after the release of the "frankenmac" showed that my sure fire conviction of an all 8-core line up at NAB would not be coming true...
I hope you get what you want guys. You have waited long... I'll be first in line to start the "mac-pro 16-core waiting club" a few years from now.

You heard it here first... "How can I be expected to pay for 2008 technology and outdated video cards etc etc I can buy a Dell with 16 cores and the latest GPUs etc etc I love the OS but I'm switching to Winblows etc etc";)
 
Oh feh. My first computer had 16KB (Atari 400) -- "When I was your age we had to bang rocks together to get 1s"

16 KB of memory? Luxury!

My dad tells me about how in the 60's he used to do programing for the government (on traffic light algorithms and what not) in machine code and they only had a few bytes (or was it bits?) of actual memory registers to work with!
 
just waiting to pull the trigger...


I can't wait to get rid of my dual G5 and load CS3 and FCS2 on my shiny new MP with five hard drives and 8gb of RAM. I still smile every time I think about those specs.
 
My mate who works in the Apple staff canteen which is where Steve hangs out surrounded by the newest hardware, said that when he was serving Steve his pancake and nuttella, he looked inside the new Mac Pro and it had lots of processors all bunched together, with the G3 logo on each one. Said he saw 20 +.

Twenty 450 mhz G3 processors will destroy a brand spankin' new 4 core 3.0 ghz machine in terms of processing power - but only for highly mutlithreaded tasks that don't gain a speed advantage from vector instruction units, which are almost none. Except perhaps compiling code! I wonder?
 
if those are the new mac pros, they are still huge, i would of thought :apple: will design something smaller, i mean who the f*** needs 3 TB of hardrive?

Me.... And a lot of other people in the media field. Even with only current projects on my hard drives and all others archived, I currently have 2TB filled and growing :D
 
Originally Posted by darthraige
I doubt that. Apple would not hold onto a chip for 3 months when it's available for anyone Mid-November. Expect a new MacPro in a few weeks.​

Especially when it's already long overdue an update.

On the other hand, Clovertown (the current quad core Xeon) was announced on 11 Nov 2006 (http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20061114comp.htm).

Apple finally used the processor in the octo-core Mac Pro on 4 Apr 2007 (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/pcs/apple-gives-mac-pros-an-8+core-makeover-249511.php).

Merom was introduced on 28 Aug 2006 (http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20060828comp.htm), Apple was out with the Core 2 iMac within 2 weeks, but didn't update the notebooks until a month or two after the announcements. Apple was also quite slow to adopt the Santa Rosa chipset.
 
On the other hand, Clovertown (the current quad core Xeon) was announced on 11 Nov 2006 (http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20061114comp.htm).

Apple finally used the processor in the octo-core Mac Pro on 4 Apr 2007 (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/pcs/apple-gives-mac-pros-an-8+core-makeover-249511.php).

Merom was introduced on 28 Aug 2006 (http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20060828comp.htm), Apple was out with the Core 2 iMac within 2 weeks, but didn't update the notebooks until a month or two after the announcements. Apple was also quite slow to adopt the Santa Rosa chipset.

It think it is clear that Apple cares more about consumer machines than they do pro machines, well take that back, they don't seem to care about the Mac Pro much.

Anyhow. I don't know what is going to happen here. If it is Macworld, so be it. I think it will be sooner though. I also think it is going to become less cost effective to use the current parts.
 
Adobe After Effects still does NOT utilize multiprocessors!! I have a quad 2.66 with the latest AE CS3 and Tiger installs + 4GB RAM. Just try checking that box in the prefs! It will bring your machine to it's knees! It doesn't work! I can't get any work done with it. Unchecked on a single proc seems to run previews and renders fine.

So how about fixing it Adobe?

Assumes best Pacino imitation...

"Say hello to my little friend!"

http://www.gridironsoftware.com/NucleoPro/
 
I think the 45% speedup applies specifically to SSE4 optimized code.

I think more like 20% will be the norm (clock for clock), which is still quite impressive.

It applies to memory intensive applications.

Applications written specifically to take advantage of the SSE4 code could see a 100% speed improvement.
 
Boot Camp

Can I safely assume that Boot Camp will work on the new Mac Pro's?

I'm in desperate need of an upgrade, I was orignally going to go with the top of the range new iMac but I've since been convinced that with the video work I'm doing I need a Mac Pro, so I'll hold off until these new ones come out before I buy one. I'm really hoping they have some good options for the graphics cards this time around, someone already mentioned the 8800GTX, that'd be awesome!!!

On a side note does anyone use the ATI X1900XT 512MB in their Mac Pro and run games through Boot Camp, because I'm interested to know what it's performance is like. (Thanks in advance)
 
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