Pentium M and Yonah Processors in Upcoming Macs?

[drewyboy]

Question from an idiot

I read 5 pages of this forum, but was unable to see what i wanted to see. I want to know how the dual Pent. M's will compare to teh Dual g4's from freescale. Now i know that pent. m's might have the upper hand, but what about Rosetta..or whatever the "converting software" is called. they said it would it would only be 60-80% of the actually proc. speed. so would this then make the dual freescale procs faster?? please answer my questions, because other than this, i could care less what procs macs use, just as long as it's worth my money.

 

[kretzy]

I read 5 pages of this forum, but was unable to see what i wanted to see. I want to know how the dual Pent. M's will compare to teh Dual g4's from freescale. Now i know that pent. m's might have the upper hand, but what about Rosetta..or whatever the "converting software" is called. they said it would it would only be 60-80% of the actually proc. speed. so would this then make the dual freescale procs faster?? please answer my questions, because other than this, i could care less what procs macs use, just as long as it's worth my money.

i'm definitely no expert, but from what i've gathered so far, the P-Ms will be better - in terms of both speed and power consumption. the other problem with the freescale chips is that they stilll seem to be quite a way off.

As for Rosetta (i love that name btw....very clever) its only being used for the transitional period - 2006-7 - while all of the software developers create universal binaries for their apps.

i guess i can see where you are coming from, but i honestly think that in the long term the intel chips will be better and the whole "transitional preiod" will be quite rapid and painless.

 

[wdlove]

What do people think the Intel chips will be named?....i mean will Apple keep their traditional Intel names - P-M, P4, Yonah etc. - or continue with the GX naming system?

For example, if they put a P-M in the new powerbook, will they name it a G5/G6 processor, or just P-M

It seems that all the discussion in the forums is about Intel names. More importantly what naming system will Apple use?

 

[GuyClinch]

It seems that all the discussion in the forums is about Intel names. More importantly what naming system will Apple use?

How is this important? In the past Mac's used 68040 and they didn't call it anything different. When they used PPC 601's they called them that. You kind of have to stick with real name of your processor.

Pete

 

[AidenShaw]

Apple needs to innovate someplace

How is this important? In the past Mac's used 68040 and they didn't call it anything different. When they used PPC 601's they called them that.

With all commodity components inside, catchy naming is the only place left for Apple to innovate.

For example, buy "QuickTransit" technology from an innovator, and market it as "Rosetta"....

 

[mccoma]

You don't think they'd just use a slower version of the Yonah for the iBook and mini?

http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20050609A2006.html

Only a $32.00 difference between the (low-end) 1.66 dual-core Yonah and the single-core version.

can't read the article (something about not being a premium member), but I wonder if $32.00 would be the total difference to Apple (deal, other components, etc.).

This whole switch means I am going to have to follow the PC sites a little more closely for chip news.

 

[isgoed]

You don't think they'd just use a slower version of the Yonah for the iBook and mini?

That's what he is saying. Yonah is a codename for the next generation Pentium M. Just like the codenames Banias and Dothan where used for previous generations. Still, they are all Pentium M's and are not marketed by their code names.

 

[JackSYi]

Does anyone have a guess on when and how much will the newly designed PowerBook be?

 

[rdowns]

Does anyone have a guess on when and how much will the newly designed PowerBook be?

No but the winning lottery numbers for Saturday will be 3, 8, 12, 22, 24 and 47.

 

[Platform]

Since the current G4 can't really play H.264 content........how much Intel Cpu power do we need to see H.264.......Desktop = 1.8Ghz P4 but what about the mobile once

 

[corywoolf]

Check out this article...

this may or may not be new news to everyone, but I came accross this article on kevinrose.com links.

http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050615_161033.html

yonah doesn;t supprt 64 bit applications it says. Wow, that would be a step backwards for apple, but other then that it sounds good.

 

[blitzkrieg79]

this may or may not be new news to everyone, but I came accross this article on kevinrose.com links.

http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050615_161033.html

yonah doesn;t supprt 64 bit applications it says. Wow, that would be a step backwards for apple, but other then that it sounds good.

64-bitness, in todays average PC consumer world, is overrated, who the hell has more than 1-2GB of RAM in their PC anyway, heck I work with Autocad at work and my machine has 2GBs and somehow I manage to finish everything on time and everything is rather smooth going (of course it depends what I actually do with Autocad but for my needs its more than sufficient) and the entire idea of 64 bits is to adress over 4GB of memory, maybe it makes sense on the high end professional level, anyway, even Adobe Photoshop to this day can't take advantage of more than 2GBs so whats the point...

64 bits its just a marketing gimmick... Dual core processor actually will give more real world performance boost alone(especially in audio/video production/encoding/decoding) than a 64bit processor with less than 4GBs of RAM...

 

[bwintx]

This whole switch means I am going to have to follow the PC sites a little more closely for chip news.

Not for long...