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Pentium M and Yonah Processors in Upcoming Macs?

The Pentium M architecture is outstanding. And Yonah will be an awesome processor.
 
The [Pentium M], which currently tops out at 2.13 GHz, typically performs as well or better than all but the fastest Pentium 4 chips, which clock in at 3.6GHz and 3.8GHz, even for applications such as computer-aided design, Intel and analysts say, while consuming roughly a quarter of the amount of power those chips use.
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:( Boo hoo. We'll all be back to explaining the MHz myth, and we don't even have these models yet.
 
chatin said:
It would be great marketing to fanboys but...

It is based not on Intel's P4 but the CISC junkpile called PIII.

Pentium M for dummies

I've run the Pentium M. It's slow, UNRELIABLE, and a piece of junk.
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You are obviously in the minority with this opinion.
 
Mr Maui said:
Is there any chance we can refer to the new Macs as Macs instead of Mactels or Macintels. It makes them sound cheap and sarcastic like the Wintel label. My Macs will always be Macs regardless of the chip inside. :)
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Not a chance. Teh Steve calls them Macintels, so we are all obliged to call them that, at least for a few weeks when the RDF starts to wear off.
 
iMeowbot said:
Not a chance. Teh Steve calls them Macintels, so we are all obliged to call them that, at least for a few weeks when the RDF starts to wear off.
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Did Steve refer to them as Macintels during the keynote? I can honestly say that I don't remember that.
 
Object-X said:
If they don't support 64 bit then will they actually go in a Powerbook? It would seem to me that Apple would want 64 bit support for the Powerbook line, but Intel says they aren't going to support it until it's needed. I think it's needed now, don't you?
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You have need for more than 4GB of RAM in a laptop now?
 
Mpowerbook182 said:
I think the Ibooks will get a minor speed bump soon, then at mwsf 06 we will get powerbooks with the M chip, I think it will happen similar to this becuse I doubt Apple would give the new chip to the Ibook first, but I could be wrong, just my 2 cents.

Dave
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Yeh PB will be first of the laptops definately, and I doubt they would put it in the mac mini or emac before portables.
 
aegisdesign said:
You have need for more than 4GB of RAM in a laptop now?
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Doesn't everyone? You'd sure think so the way many are whining about the "complete uselessness" of the present Powerbook line. I wish people would remember back 2 or 3 years ago and they'd realize that the present Powerbook line is quite nice by comparison. Powerbooks are designed for usefulness AND portability ... NOT to completely replace the biggest and baddest desktops that don't need to fit in a 1" think casing and be carried around over your shoulder.
 
DeSnousa said:
You do realize that the first shipments of mactels will be june next year.
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Says who? Steve Jobs said he would like to have Intel Macs in the "marketplace" by the next wwdc. The Intel Yonah chips are scheduled for release in the first quarter of next year. I wouldn't be surprised to se an announcement at MWSF.
 
Grrr- I'd just about made up my mind about the upcoming PB purchase... lol :D

My dilemma is whether to buy a top-spec PB now so it can be sold for a decent price 2nd hand when these come out, or spend a little less on an iBook and get one of these when they come out, or wait, or... or... or... but anyway, here is not the place for that kind of thing :)

I gather that the Yonah chip is likely to head for Powerbooks... Sounds like good news to me! A dual-core sitting in a slim alu enclosure... ;)

Personally, I think the wider range of chips that Intel offer will help to differentiate the PB and iB lines - the iBook is gagging for an update, the narrow gap between that and the PB can finally be opened up to provide a wider product range...

Can't wait for 15" dual-core PB...

PS. I'm only a newbie, so feel free to flame me if any of this is wrong and I'll edit it ;)
 
I read an article about Apples real message to developers:
Use XCode and Apple can automatically recompile your code for Intel/IBM/AMD or whatever may be the best chip for the best job in the future.

Some intels shall be yielding dual core chips for the powerbooks (3Ghz) sometime in 2006

Apple is free to use IBM chips in PowerMacs

or whatever other chip they now may use whenever,

etc etc...

is very fortunate,
& the iPod will keep them afloat until people start to see the light
 
Lunja said:
I gather that the Yonah chip is likely to head for Powerbooks... Sounds like good news to me! A dual-core sitting in a slim alu enclosure...
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It is my guess that there will be a design change to go with the new processor insertions. May still be aluminum, but I'd bet some design change will occur to distinguish the new line.
 
You should all read this. It's a fantastic overview of where Intel is going and where Apple might jump on board. Sounds like the Pentium M is (like was said) going to be the first out the door and that Pentium D is the end of the "big, powerhungry, MHz-obsessed Intel chips" we're used to, and that Apple will skip it.

http://arstechnica.com/columns/mac/mac-20050608.ars
 
One thing I'm curious on is:

When Apple is using Intel CPU's, will they go through all this hoopla to release a new CPU speed, or will they include upgrades to faster chips as they are available (and tested to Apple's liking)?

Seems like they ought to be able to just upgrade CPU's mid product cycle now. Hopefully at least.
 
Mr Maui said:
It is my guess that there will be a design change to go with the new processor insertions. May still be aluminum, but I'd bet some design change will occur to distinguish the new line.
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Bit obvious really. I should have thought for a bit longer... :rolleyes: :D

By the time these come out, Apple will be busy preparing for the launch of Leopard, right when Microsoft starts promoting Longoverdue... A new design + Yonah + big advertising campaign = a growing market share for Apple...

Welcome to the begining of tomorrow, Apple fans...
 
Lunja said:
Bit obvious really. I should have thought for a bit longer... :rolleyes: :D

By the time these come out, Apple will be busy preparing for the launch of Leopard, right when Microsoft starts promoting Longoverdue... A new design + Yonah + big advedrtising campaign = a growing market share for Apple...

Welcome to the begining of tomorrow, Apple fans...
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Or the end of their existence if you listen to the naysayers!! :eek:
 
Personally, I hope they use the Intel Pentium D processors in Macintosh desktops; the Pentium M's will work well for PowerBooks and iBooks, but the frontside bus is only 400Mhz, a far cry from the 1.35Ghz FSB of the dual 2.7Ghz G5, or even the 667Mhz FSB of the 2.0 Ghz G5 in the iMac G5.

If Apple is going to make this move to Intel work, they need to either equal their current processor speeds or increase them.
 
having taken this much time to digest the news, i think i can state clearly my real issue with this switch;

i understand the reasons for switching..production problems and no plan for mobile chips on ibms part...

but losing the g5 in the powermacs sucks in my opinion. Logic and Final cut run like beasts on it, and while i dont think intel will suck, i DO think that, in those applications, the G5 will be hard to beat. i WANT them to support both processors..but that would be foolish...i look forward to a pentium M po9werbook..as odd as the prospect feels, but what will replace the g5?...i almost want to buy a g5 powermac to have one before they stop selling, but then in 4 years the ppc will be phased out. man, decisions.
 
I don't knwo if anyone said this already..but...

While this is good, it still might pose some problems:

example: People see 3.8 GHz Pentium 4 PC compared to 2.13 GHz Pentium M Mac... and they see that the PC is "faster"... and it even has the same processor so I don't know if they megahertz myth would work in this situation... we'll see what happenes...
 
With all these fast new chips that will be out a year and two from now, my only worry is that Apple will still cripple bus speeds, ram limits and Vram. I just hope that the ones that they end up using on their lower end systems will more than compete with whatever is out there for evenly priced PC systems... and that they are updated twice a year. It will be harder for Apple to skimp I think when you can get a lot of PC for $1000 and up. I think we might see a lot of exiting things from Apple now. Sort of like the days when all the Macs went from beige to colors. I think Apple will shake things up again now that speed won't hold them back. It is a great time to be a Mac user despite the bumpy road ahead.
 
Surreal said:
i WANT them to support both processors..but that would be foolish...
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Foolish? They support two different processors now ... from IBM and Freescale. you never know what they future will hold. Time will tell. Remember ... "3 GHz in a year" never materialized ... "transition almost complete by the end of 2007" could go south too if things don't run just perfectly for Intel. One never knows. ;)
 
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