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Originally posted by andyduncan
wait, people mix things with their liquor? On purpose?

unfortunatly yes, when you are a poor college student who maxed out their credit card on a 12" PB the only kind of liquor you can affoard you MUST mix with something to avoid the horrendous taste of the cheap alcohol.

and to everyone, thanks for the great ideas to mix with pepsi. . . ill have to have a pepsi mixing SB party so i can try all of the varieties!

as for the ad, i think it is well targeted and will have a good effect. the idea sounds like it will get people's attention and the give-away on the caps will certain entice people away from other music serivces!!!
 
Originally posted by mrsebastian
you know apple wasn't going to come up with some lame advertising. some of you may not like the ad concept, but i'd bet a pepsi you're going to watch it ;)

Not to nit-pick, but according to macworld, this is NOT an Apple commercial or an Apple-sponsored event. It's "solely" sponsored by Pepsi.
 
Just mix the pepsi with some Molson Ex and give it a good shake.

On another topic, i think apple should open up iTunes Canada and strike a deal with one of our wonderful canadian beer companies.
 
Originally posted by ddbean
Not to nit-pick, but according to macworld, this is NOT an Apple commercial or an Apple-sponsored event. It's "solely" sponsored by Pepsi.

umm..read what he wrote again..he did NOT say it is an Apple commercial or an Apple-sponsored event..in fact, he said exactly the opposite

i hate it when ppl glance at something and immediately respond without thinking twice
 
Re: Re: Re: where will the ads end up?

Originally posted by wdlove
How many ads were availabe Doctor Q? Were they all in one place? Such as do you just do a search for Super Bowl Ads?
All of them, as I remember it. Yes, all at one site, which let you watch them as small videos. I suggest that you just search for "superbowl ads" or "superbowl advertising" or "superbowl advertisements". I'll post if find a specific site. And, of course, you could always watch and/or tape the game.
 
Originally posted by Henriok
I fought the law .. and the law won?
And.. I can now download stuff for free, but after I've purchased a sugared water. That's a new definition of free.

Well.. I'm sure the ad will get people's attention, and that's what it's made to do.

There are two ver. of the song.

"I fought the law and the law one."
Song that Mike Ness sang on recent album.
or
"I fought the law and I won."
Song that the DK sang back in the day.

I voted negative..because I thought Apple was suppose to get on the good side of the RIAA, but according this article Apple and Pepsi will be smacking the RIAA in the face.

RIAA gives Apple the rights to use the music to sale and then Apple throws it in their faces.

RIAA will probably start slam campaign against Apple now and throw all support behind everyone else(including MS).

P2P people don't give a crap about it being free for few months. They want it free all the time.

This is not a positive commerical and will not due well long term.
This is just like the "Lemmings" commerical all over again.
 
Originally posted by brooklyn
What can Pepsi haters do in order to get an itunes code number?

3. See if they have one of those "No Purchase Necessary Disclosers" and mail away for one.

Yes, they do.

No Purchase Necessary. To receive one free game piece and a copy of Official Rules, while supplies last, send a self-addressed, stamped envelope postmarked on or before 3/31/04 to: Pepsi iTunes Game Piece, P.O. Box 9205, Young America, MN 55558-9205. Residents of the state of VT may omit return postage. Limit one free game piece per request per stamped outer envelope. Pepsi-Cola Company (“Sponsor”) assumes no liability for lost, late, stolen, illegible, misdirected, mutilated, incomplete or postage-due mail or requests.
 
Originally posted by knoxer
Yes, difinitely long island ice tea.... Much better with Pepsi. And I agree that rum+pepsi=bad.
Jack and Coke or Jim Beam and Pepsi... c'mon we all know that's how it goes.
 
From the sound of it Pepsi was entirely responsible for the campaign, not Apple, so you can't exactly blame Apple whether it's good or bad. I don't know whether Apple had any approval rights or not, so they may or may not be responsible for some of the blame if the ads suck. Personally, I like the concept, but I'm not sure whether it'll work on a large scale or not.

And as for the iTMS being "the man", that's really not fair in a number of ways. In a perfect world, you'd be able to either buy CDs and rip them freely without any hairy gorilla breathing down your neck or slapping copy protections on the CD, or buy unprotected digital copies of music on the internet.

The world's not perfect. The "get something for nothing" attitude of net folk is mildly annoying to me, but it was largely a response to a need--people wanted easily available digital music, and the RIAA was not making it readily available to them, because they were so attached to the overpriced physical media and its distribution channels. People want inexpensive downloads. Don't give them an option, and they'll go elsewhere.

Which brings us to the iTMS. Assuming you want to create an online music store at this point in time, and you want to be as fair as possible to your consumers, you have two choices:

a) Sell only music from indie or forward thinking bands that are willing to accept unprotected music.

or

b) Make the RIAA happy with your copy protection scheme.

In the case of (a), some small online stores do this, but your selection is going to be exceedingly limited for as long as the current studio system persists, which may be a long, long time. In the case of (b), you have restrictions, but a wide variety of popular music. Apple chose (b), because that's what people want.

And, by all accounts, they fought tooth and nail to get the relatively leinent (in comparison to other alternatives) licencing agreement we enjoy today, further opening up the same less restrictive terms to others. I'd bet money if Steve could've gotten a deal for unprotected files he would have, but that just isn't going to happen in the real world.

Don't forget, after all, that Apple uses no product activation or other copy protection schemes with its own software.

They're the good guys on this one, they're just doing it subtly.

Keep in mind that iTMS also has quite reasonable licencing terms for indies--certainly better than what big record labels give bands.
 
Originally posted by ITR 81
I voted negative..because I thought Apple was suppose to get on the good side of the RIAA, but according this article Apple and Pepsi will be smacking the RIAA in the face.

I thought I read on CNN that a RIAA spokesperson said that this was a good commercial from their point of view, that it was getting people to try legal downloads instead of what they had been doing.
 
Greenday singing ... I fought the law and I won/ the law won....just doesnt make any sense.

What is there to feel good about, yeah we fought the RIAA by using P2P and got sued. but thanks for Pepsi/Apple for offering us a 1 in 3 chance of winning a free song. life is so much better now.

stupid.

Does no one at these ad agencies try anymore. The target market for iPods will be so turned off by this campaign, it makes me sick.

all you need to do is announce the give away, leave the Greenday song and the message of "theres a legal way to download" behined. no one is going to care for it because its coming from a corporation (Pepsi).

Greenday is just validating all those critics that accused the band of selling out. Why Greenday? you guys were so good
 
My school has only Pepsi vending machines, so bottoms up :)

Plenty of computer nerds around, too, so I think we'll see Pepsi make some good money.

But I think the deal is overpriced. A bottle of Pepsi at school is a buck. I'm paying a penny more to buy from the iTMS!!!! :(
 
Such a deal

Originally posted by applekid
My school has only Pepsi vending machines, so bottoms up :)

Plenty of computer nerds around, too, so I think we'll see Pepsi make some good money.

But I think the deal is overpriced. A bottle of Pepsi at school is a buck. I'm paying a penny more to buy from the iTMS!!!! :(

Actually, since only 1 in 3 bottles is a winner, each song (on average) will cost you $3. :eek:

Of course, you'd have to be cranially challenged to approach it that way. If you already drink a lot of Pepsi (or are willing to switch), the songs are a free bonus. :)

This whole thing reminds me of that famous description: "A lottery is a tax on people who can't do math."
 
Originally posted by nickmcghie
umm..read what he wrote again..he did NOT say it is an Apple commercial or an Apple-sponsored event..in fact, he said exactly the opposite

i hate it when ppl glance at something and immediately respond without thinking twice

I have re-read what he/she wrote and he/she does imply that Apple is responsible for this ad. What else could be meant by "you know apple wasn't going to come up with some lame advertising." ? But really sorry I brought it up...drink up everyone
 
Re: Re: Re: Wow, this is hateful.

Originally posted by nationElectric
What might be more different, though, would be a system like Weed (http://www.weedshare.com/), which tries to make file sharing profitable for everyone, thus encouraging legitimacy through a carrot instead of a stick. What might be more different than that would be labels like Warp Records (http://www.warprecords.com/bleep/) throwing out the entire assumption that their customers are criminals and simply selling people mp3's. These are creative, legitimate alternatives to the current system. Hopefully there will be more.

I'm sick of seeing dickh**ds speaking of Warp Records's bleep.com as an example - from what I can tell:

1]. You don't listen to Warp's stuff - they are very eclectic, so eclectithat their normal CDs found in stores (if you're lucky finding them in mainsteam stores in the first place) are so ridiculously priced unless you're a fan, no one would buy it; regardless how ever nice the packaging is...

2]. Their mp3 download is also over-priced - just for some non-legible beeps & bangs (again, try tell everyone to put Aphix Twin on at a house party and you'll see all things thrown at you)

3]. Bleep.com went online because they don't think their stuff would sell on iTMS (see point 1&2) and They won't make as much money - which is all true, look at their price of the mp3s.

4]. Everyone is out to make a buck, not some charity or to stands on some moral ground to save the recording industry or please the fans, unless YOU don't work for money, you should look around more and see how the world really turns;

You need to think different my friend!
 
Originally posted by ubadojw1
A Jack & Coke should not substitute Pepsi. Since Pepsi has a sweeter taste you need to use a sweet liquor. Since Rum isn't cutting it try a Coconut Rum, or use Crown Royal. Though the best combination of Crown Royal is with Royal Crown Cola.

A G5 Royal Crown Cube(d)?

OK, I had a few beers.
 
Originally posted by ariza910
no one is going to care for it because its coming from a corporation (Pepsi).
Last I checked, 90% of consumers aren't nearly aware enough, even on a superficially counter-culture level, to care much that the message is coming from a corporation, so long as the corp is pushing an image they like. If the mainstream cared that much, there'd be a lot more than two major cola brands in vending machines.

I'm guessing (hoping, really) that the message is going to be a sort of backhanded jab at the RIAA--"We got screwed by the mega-song-corps, but [wink] you don't have to. Go have a Pepsi."

RIAA is superficially happy, because it's promoting legal downloading, teens willing to buy a prepackaged counterculture image (which most are) will get the reference and hopefully think it's cool, parents won't care either way and will just see the free tunes.

Does seem like a minefield of potential backlash from both sides (RIAA and consumers), but hey, at least they've got the guts to try something weird (sure isn't what I was imagining). Hope it doesn't backfire.
 
Re: Free my whatsit

Originally posted by Belly-laughs
These kids are in it just because of their bad luck and need for serious cash to pay for their previous "free" downloads.

Bad luck??? They broke the law and they got caught. It was not just because of their bad luck; it was because they chose to blatantly violate the law.

Also, $3000 does not really constitute "serious cash" but if they had had to work to earn it then at least it would have been some kind of lesson for them.

Unfortunately, instead, now they are are being rewarded for their bad behavior. They are being paid to be in a major nationwide Super Bowl ad in which they get to be cool and joke about it.

It hardly sounds like bad luck to me.

Maybe I should start pirating music and see if I have the bad luck of being paid to help launch a major national ad campaign. :rolleyes:
 
Businesses make profits; CEOs are humans

Originally posted by hokka
4]. Everyone is out to make a buck, not some charity or to stands on some moral ground to save the recording industry or please the fans, unless YOU don't work for money, you should look around more and see how the world really turns.

Finally, some common sense! Thank you for pointing out what should be obvious to everyone, but apparently isn't. Businesses are started and operated to make a profit. As much profit as possible, as long as they can get away with it.

No doubt many corporations engage in illegal or unethical practices to bolster their profits, but the only difference between them and us is that they are in a position to do it much more effectively. The majority (if not the entirety) of the general population engages in illegal or unethical practices when they think they won't get caught. For instance, income tax "errors", P2P file swapping, "borrowing" office supplies, taking extra sick days, speeding on the highway . . .

I'm not justifying illegal or unethical behavior on the part of corporations, nor am I preaching about the behavior of individuals -- I speed, too. I'm just pointing out that if a kid is not taught to respect authority (think P2P), he's not going to magically become a saint when, 20 years later, he gets the corner office. And while it would be nice if CEOs used their positions to promote ethical behavior, it is just a wee bit hypocritical to hold them to a higher standard than the rest of us.
 
Re: i'm a dickh**d

hokka ponders:
I'm sick of seeing dickh**ds speaking of Warp Records's bleep.com as an example - from what I can tell blah blah blah


First off, matters of taste: I have heard Aphex Twin, I do like them, and since I do work for my money I'd rather not have someone trade me a crippled product for it. I'll leave the issue of whether or not I'm a "dickh**d" to the reader.

That established, let's see if I understand your argument: You resent bleep's success because they might've been censored by iTMS and figured they'd get more of the profits if they cut out the middlemen. Also, their stuff costs more.

So, their songs are a whopping US$.36 more, aren't DRM'ed, are encoded at higher quality than iTMS, and half of the profit goes directly to the artist, so I don't think you can get too huffy about the price. That aside, you're basically making my case for me. By stepping outside of the system -- a system which might refuse to even acknowledge them -- they're better off, their customers are better off, and their artists are better off. It sounds like the only reasons you resent them so much is that you don't like their catalog, and they're not owned by Apple. Which is fine and all, but it's not exactly an argument against them.

Think Critically.
 
Originally posted by Makosuke
From the sound of it Pepsi was entirely responsible for the campaign, not Apple, so you can't exactly blame Apple whether it's good or bad. I don't know whether Apple had any approval rights or not, so they may or may not be responsible for some of the blame if the ads suck. Personally, I like the concept, but I'm not sure whether it'll work on a large scale or not...


You make some valid points. You might not guess it, but I did arrive at my opinion through a fairly balanced process.

I do like that the Apple is (somewhat) open to indies through things like cdbaby.com, and I'll be honest and say that it took me a while to make up my mind on the DRM issue. It seemed like a decent compromise and all, I could understand where Apple was coming from, and so on. And then I sat down and seriously considered spending a bunch of money to build my music collection through it, and it just didn't look like a wise long-term investment. The quality could be better, it's restrictive, and there's all kinds of potential for technical complications. It's a compromise, sure, but it's not a compromise with ME, the paying customer. It's a compromise with the copyright infringers, which I get to pay for. That's just not cricket.

Nor, for that matter, is it punk rock. ;)
 
Here in AUS we get the super-bowl, but from what i can remember they replace the ads, with ones from here, WHICH IS TOTALY USELESS THANK U VERY MUCH
i mean who in Aus ACTULY cares about what americans call football...............(u want real football? www.afl.com.au ,but lets not get into that)....................... NOT MANY, I WANT THE ADDS .... :'(


Ok I'm finished now....
 
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