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Apr 12, 2001

The periscope camera lens that will be exclusive to the iPhone 15 Pro Max will be solely supplied by Largan, according to the latest note by Apple industry analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.


Rumors about the iPhone getting a periscope lens have been circulating since early 2020, when Kuo first mentioned the possibility. The analyst originally said that a periscope lens would be an iPhone 14 Pro feature, but that never happened. Since then, Kuo has maintained that the lens type will exclusively debut in the iPhone 15 Pro Max, a prediction that analyst Jeff Pu has also made.

In a periscope system, light entering the telephoto lens is reflected by an angled mirror towards the camera's image sensor. The change in direction in which the light travels allows for a longer "folded" telephoto setup inside phones, enabling users to zoom in further without any blurriness.

Kuo's latest note is contextualized in terms of two risks that Apple camera lens suppliers face going forward: High inventory levels leading to a weaker-than-expected second quarter this year, and suppliers being unable to profit from periscope camera lenses.

According to Kuo, the average selling price for Largan's shipped periscope camera lenses is around $4 (including the prisms), which is notably lower than the market consensus of $4.50 to $5 or higher. Kuo claims that the $4 price means Largan cannot profit from the periscope camera lens.

Looking ahead, Kuo believes both iPhone 16 Pro models in 2024 will use the same or similar periscope lens as the one used in the ‌iPhone 15 Pro‌ Max, with Apple continuing its trend of setting apart standard and Pro models by reserving certain higher-end hardware features for the latter.

It is anticipated that Apple supplier Genius will start supplying periscope lenses for the iPhone 16, at which point the component's price will be even lower, negatively impacting lens suppliers, said Kuo.

Article Link: Periscope Camera Lens Exclusive to iPhone 15 Pro Max Will Be Supplied by Largan
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macrumors member
Jan 29, 2004
I had one of these in 2003 - the Minolta DiMage X
Everything old is new again...


macrumors 68000
Oct 4, 2008
I had one of these in 2003 - the Minolta DiMage X
Everything old is new again...
I had one of that range and chose it specifically for the folded zoom lens to keep the camera body small. Great device!


macrumors G5
May 30, 2002
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
the telephoto camera from a 6-element lens to a 7-element lens.

Apple, Tim adding another element lens will not improve picture to video quality, having better coated lenses will!

Let’s hope a variable optical zoom like what Sony has in their Xperia 1 IV is implemented and both used for pictures and video.

Also I still would like to see Apple really flex the camera software and using TB USB-C with FCP for Raw footage transfer and setting up camera preferences an editor wants to use in FCP


Contributing Editor
Mar 18, 2016
Edinburgh, UK
Did anyone actually re read that before posting it? There are so many mistakes it’s breathtaking. It’s iPhone 15 not 14 for a start. And it’s not 2022 Wow
Apologies for the errors in the original post. As editor, I take full responsibility. I was forced to attend to a family emergency during the proof-reading, and published too hastily. Everything is ok now. Again, sorry about that.
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macrumors 68020
Oct 12, 2010
Seriously, Larson is a “victim”?
No company is forced to make or is going to purposely offer Apple a part at a cost below what they need to make on it.


macrumors 68040
May 1, 2021
Not surprised, most likely to do with space as it'll be a bigger camera module. Interesting low cost though.
Once they improve the miniaturisation of the tech it'll come to smaller devices. But I think any Android phone with a periscope lens is a larger device?
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macrumors 603
Aug 14, 2009
Well, technically it’s not a zoom - it’s a fixed lens that’s longer than what we currently have. But it will be welcome for sure.

True, It’s a telephoto lens but not a zoom since you cannot change the focus length of each lens; all you do is switch to a different lens to get a different focal length. A zoom lens is generally a telephoto lens, but a telephot lens is not always a zoom.
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Apr 30, 2021
So apples ethical supply chain does not allow a supplier to make a profit so they can make a nice profit !!! The supplier should have said no ! But if they loose that contact do people loose their job ? Questioning how ethical a supply chain it is ?
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