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Pete Carroll doesnt like BCS

dukebound85 said:
of course he loved it when it had his team in the top 2 lol.
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My thoughts exactly. The Pac-10 will always kill their strength of schedule rating. Even if they schedule four tough out-of-conference games each year, it isn't enough to compensate for the tough schedules in the SEC, and for this year, the Big 12.

I mean look at the Washington and Washington State games USC played this year. Not helping the cause.
 
Although I like to see any coach come out against the BCS, I'd personally like to hear more Big 10 coaches talking like this. I like Penn St. and have some friends from there, but I'm kind of hoping they go undefeated and get left out. The Big 10 is one of the biggest barriers to a playoff, and maybe getting kicked in the balls a couple of times by the BCS will get them to give their support.
 
Pretty typical response from those on the outside

Honestly though, where's the beef?
Win out and he is in a BCS Bowl... the Rose

Should he be in the NC?
Not if there are 2 undefeateds
If a one loss team goes, every other one loss team can argue the same

Woof, Woof – Dawg
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i don't think anyone out there LIKES the BCS system. NCAA Football needs a playoff system. The only problem is, there are like 500 billion teams out there.
 
nanvinnie said:
i don't think anyone out there LIKES the BCS system. NCAA Football needs a playoff system. The only problem is, there are like 500 billion teams out there.
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well theres 119 D1 teams

and really there are a select few that are head and shoulders above the rest

use the BCS and take the top 6 teams and create a playoff with the top 2 having a bye. use the bcs bowls to be used as the playoff games (there would be 5 games like there is now)

thats my thought process at least and a good compromise using the present system
 
i'm not exactly sure how the computer calculates and ranks the teams but a system similar to ncaa basketball would be better.. it's still based on the computer rankings but.. .maybe using 32 teams and have a playoff system that way... i don't know.

i really don't have a full solution to the issue, but i think the bcs is crap.
 
nanvinnie said:
i don't think anyone out there LIKES the BCS system. NCAA Football needs a playoff system. The only problem is, there are like 500 billion teams out there.
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fact: every division of every ncaa sport has a playoff, expect for division 1-a football. they like to put up this 'kids have finals' nonsense, which doesn't explain why 1-aa football has playoffs in december. apparently, 1-a football is still engulfed in traditions of bowl games, and they probably want as many teams as possible in bowl games and winning to end their year. in particular, the pac 10 and big ten are the two conferences that are holding this up the most with the rose bowl tie in, which held up the bcs in the first place.

dukebound85 said:
well theres 119 D1 teams

and really there are a select few that are head and shoulders above the rest

use the BCS and take the top 6 teams and create a playoff with the top 2 having a bye. use the bcs bowls to be used as the playoff games (there would be 5 games like there is now)

thats my thought process at least and a good compromise using the present system
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i say top 8 teams from the bcs polls get in (i used to say 12 or 16, but i doubt that will happen). add two more sites (cotton and orange i say) to round out the six, and the national championship will be on rotation between those six bowls.

one more thing, after next year, i'm hearing a conference may be removed from the bcs elite and replaced with another one. something tells me the big east is kicked out and the mountain west replaces them.
 
furcalchick said:
fact: every division of every ncaa sport has a playoff, expect for division 1-a football. they like to put up this 'kids have finals' nonsense, which doesn't explain why 1-aa football has playoffs in december. apparently, 1-a football is still engulfed in traditions of bowl games, and they probably want as many teams as possible in bowl games and winning to end their year. in particular, the pac 10 and big ten are the two conferences that are holding this up the most with the rose bowl tie in, which held up the bcs in the first place.



i say top 8 teams from the bcs polls get in (i used to say 12 or 16, but i doubt that will happen). add two more sites (cotton and orange i say) to round out the six, and the national championship will be on rotation between those six bowls.

one more thing, after next year, i'm hearing a conference may be removed from the bcs elite and replaced with another one. something tells me the big east is kicked out and the mountain west replaces them.
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for real? the mountain west is by FAR the best non BCS conference at the moment.

go CSU lol
 
I can't stand the BCS. Division 1A football definitely needs a playoff system of some sort.

Pete Carroll is such a hypocrite.
 
dukebound85 said:
of course he loved it when it had his team in the top 2 lol. now when it doesnt he has an issue.
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Did he or do you just assume he liked it then? His comments have always been mildly negative and a bit aloof. Where is the hypocrisy? USC got left behind Oklahoma some years back through this oft fiddled with BCS system, even though OK lost its last game by a hefty margin.

If you don't like USC or Carroll, fine, a lot of people don't, but it seems you are looking for an excuse.

Pac-10 is definitely weak this year. There is no way USC can surpass an undefeated PSU or one-loss Florida. Of course, anything can happen in Big-12 South, that is an exciting division to follow. SEC is now just a long countdown to Florida-Alabama title game with a bunch of trap games scheduled before it.
 
Every conference has its up and down years. It just so happens that the Pac-10 is down this year. USC does what it can by scheduling well OOC, but beyond that, there's not much it can do. I don't really remember Carroll being a huge fan of the BCS, so his comments don't surprise me.
 
dmr727 said:
Every conference has its up and down years. It just so happens that the Pac-10 is down this year. USC does what it can by scheduling well OOC, but beyond that, there's not much it can do.
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I agree with you fully. Yeah, it's easy to compare two teams with 1 loss based off of their opponent to whom they lost. With as many teams that run the table as there are, it gets too complicated to decide who is the best team out there.
 
furcalchick said:
one more thing, after next year, i'm hearing a conference may be removed from the bcs elite and replaced with another one. something tells me the big east is kicked out and the mountain west replaces them.
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Absolutely no way.

The MWC has two great teams this year (and one decent one in BYU), but there's no consistency.
 
dukebound85 said:
of course he loved it when it had his team in the top 2 lol.
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No, he didn't.

Pete, I have just lost all respect for you, you fair weather BCS fan
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When you post a quote from Pete where he said he likes the BCS, I'll listen. Until then, stop talking (or, more accurately, bashing teams and people you know nothing about so it fits well with how you WANT to think of teams).

RamblinWreck said:
My thoughts exactly. The Pac-10 will always kill their strength of schedule rating.
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Remember last year? Oregon was legitimately incredible. Cal, before a slew of injuries, was among the best in the land. The PAC-10 swings, and, truth be told, I'm not sold on the SEC until they get a win against their Pac-10 foe, USC. So, Les Miles, is there any reason you refused to play USC when we requested it?

dmr727 said:
Every conference has its up and down years. It just so happens that the Pac-10 is down this year. USC does what it can by scheduling well OOC, but beyond that, there's not much it can do. I don't really remember Carroll being a huge fan of the BCS, so his comments don't surprise me.
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Great post, and spot on. We can't do much about it now besides play as hard as we can.
 
dukebound85 said:
two?

TCU: 9-1
BYU: 8-1
Utah: 9-0
Air Force: 7-2

CSU had been good in the past going back 7-9 years.

Wyoming has been decent at times as well as New Mexico
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I should clarify.

Before anything as crazy as the BCS system kicking out one of their conferences to let in the MWC or anyone else there needs to be consistency in the top 25.

Any non-BCS conference needs to have more than one team in the top 25 consistently. That will mean SOS is much higher, and will gain more respect.

The difference between the BCS and non-BCS conferences is that BCS conferences have bad years every now and then whereas non-BCS conferences have good years every now and then.
 
Badandy said:
No, he didn't.



When you post a quote from Pete where he said he likes the BCS, I'll listen. Until then, stop talking (or, more accurately, bashing teams and people you know nothing about so it fits well with how you WANT to think of teams).
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all i know is he doesnt bash the bcs when his teams are doing well. when his teams are out of favor with the bcs he complains. got it? good

where is his complaining about the bcs during the last couple years when they were THE team in college football? its not there how surprising

his not arguing over the bcs during the years he is included in the NC game proves he doesnt have a problem with it during those years. let me see him complain about the bcs when his team is #1 lol

no one ever complains about a system unless they feel they are getting the shaft, which he clearly feels he is this year

and since you make the claim i dont know what im talking about, let me tell you im one of the biggest college football followers there is so yea, i would like to think im not totally ignorant on these topics...
 
dukebound85 said:
all i know is he doesnt bash the bcs when his teams are doing well. when his teams are out of favor with the bcs he complains. got it? good
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So you're saying that Pete Carroll is like every other college football coach on the planet? ;)

As far as I'm concerned this is nothing but a good thing - the more coaches that complain, the better.
 
dukebound85 said:
all i know is he doesnt bash the bcs when his teams are doing well. when his teams are out of favor with the bcs he complains. got it? good
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I happen to have had conversations with Pete Carroll, and I know for a fact that he wants a playoff. He ALWAYS wants a playoff, and if you went to USC or followed him enough, you'd know that. He's one of the biggest proponents of a new system, and he is not the kind of person that only wants a playoff when he's out of the top two.
 
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