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Petition for a Matte Option on the 15" MBP.

HLdan said:
And with THAT being said, you may not see a matte option on anything other than the 17".
Notice how the iMac and the new Cinema Display don't have matte options?
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Lets see - Im very sure the 24" LED is very much an experiment 🙂 We will see when the new ones are announced.
 
Marsil said:
Lets see - Im very sure the 24" LED is very much an experiment 🙂 We will see when the new ones are announced.
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I agree with that completely.
I did not buy one just because it was glossy... instead I bought a used 20"ACD. I am hoping they do not go glossy only on the new displays as that will drive up the used price .. and i have my eye on one of those 23 inchers....😀😀😀
 
HLdan said:
I like the glossy too but I think the bezel outside of the LCD area is distracting. That said, I think the OP is not "really" getting the point of why the matte option is only for the 17".
Of course Apple knows that many people would like to have the matte option all the way down to the 13"...BUT...the people who complained that Apple was referring to were people that need a larger screen to do critical work in terms of photos or programs like mathematica, indesign, illustrator or autocad. Most people using smaller screens just don't have that high of a demand for the "perfect" LCD viewing experience.
And with THAT being said, you may not see a matte option on anything other than the 17".
Notice how the iMac and the new Cinema Display don't have matte options?
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I get it don't worry, I also get it that it's for product differentiation too,that you pay a hefty sum to get you matte.🙄 But according to your argument the 20" imac and the 24" imac (of all) doesn't merit a matte screen as "larger screen" setups for people who do "critical work" and the 17" lappie does? There are holes to what you are saying,plus 15" is big enough screen. I wouldn't be petitioning for 13" screens I am sure that they use both the product diff. and the way to fork more money there hence the no matte option, actually I AM SURE of that, but at 15" it's both rational to ask for one and reasonable to expect that they accomodate your needs.

p.s. as for the waiting to see if people buy the 17" non gloss (they will I am sure just listen to the applause and sighs of relief in the room as they announce it) it can cut both ways: Apple might be greedy again and say ok, here's the 17" which not a lot will buy, let's force more people buying it with the matte option we have on this one only....sucks but....I started counting the size diff from the 15" inch and thinking about it, imagine...shshhs

Btw, if a few years ago someone said that Apple is offering matte on only the 17" lappie and have put not only glossy but a high reflective glass on the rest they would think that guy was crazy...but...here it is boys...
 
Do any of you seriously believe that they are not already planning on releasing a matte 15"? Just because they didn't release it the exact second when they released the 17" doesn't mean it's not going to happen. Seriously, they're just waiting until the next revision.

And yes, I very much prefer matte screens.
 
I have a unibody 15" glossy screen and it has far more contrast and clarity in outside situations than the matte I used to have which washed out to near invisibility in sunlight.
The glossy screen is also more easily cleaned, and offers protection.
Indoors, I do not find even the remotest of distractions relating to reflections.
I would defy anyone to sit at my desktop or laptop computer in my home and say they can see any problem whatsoever with reflections, and I am in an ordinary domestic situation with both a central ceiling light and a table lamp. I have no problem in remote locations either. The only time I have seen a problem with the glossy displays is in the Apple Stores themselves, with their multi-directional, specialist retail lighting that is far from what 99.9% of users will ever encounter in the real world, whether indoors or out.
I personally believe that anyone who really and truly has some kind of specialist professional need for a matte display would also be insisting on higher resolution, more color-accurate screens than the present 15" in any case.
Sorry... no signature on the petition from me. If anything, I'd prefer a petition calling for a high resolution screen on the 15". Without that, the glossy/matte argument is just about cosmetics.
 
Sir Cecil said:
I would defy anyone to sit at my desktop or laptop computer in my home and say they can see any problem whatsoever with reflections, and I am in an ordinary domestic situation with both a central ceiling light and a table lamp.
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OK, you got me. Send me a PM and I'll be over in the morning! Krispy Kreme Donuts and a Caramel Macchiatto Grande are pretty much to my liking...😛
 
aresinferno said:
Not signed. Not that i am against them providing an option i find that there is absolutely no problem with their glossy display. How hard can it be to turn out of the ridiculously bright sun that would cause problems with any screen. I feel that everyone is saying bad things about these glossy screens to go along with the crowd.
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This is your opinion. But had you ever tried to work on glossy display when you need to actually e.g. read off display 10 hours a day (that means stare at screen constantly while being concentrated) few days later your eyes would have fallen out of sockets.

As software developer, I'm dead set on matte displays (and already ordered matte MBP17).

Long time ago, for two days I had to work on PC of our designer (my PC broke, designer was out of office). The PC had high-end 17" Sony glossy display (10 years ago that was high-end). That were two days of nightmare. I couldn't done any work because I couldn't concentrate: better half of the office was reflecting on the screen; any movement in office was a movement on my screen. Unless one sits in the darkest corner of the office, glossy is quite hard for work.

My check list is quite simple. If for fun - then glossy. If for work - then matte. Watching movies on glossy display is a joy. Working in xterm -rv hours and hours on matte is ... tiring. Yet possible and afterward my eyes are still there where they should be.

Anyway, I do not see why Apple couldn't provide matte option on MBP15.
 
I sign wholeheartedly.

(But I think I gave them the wrong message by buying a glossy-screen MBP; since it was the only current-gen option available at the time.)
 
Sir Cecil said:
I have a unibody 15" glossy screen and it has far more contrast and clarity in outside situations than the matte I used to have which washed out to near invisibility in sunlight.
The glossy screen is also more easily cleaned, and offers protection.
Indoors, I do not find even the remotest of distractions relating to reflections.
I would defy anyone to sit at my desktop or laptop computer in my home and say they can see any problem whatsoever with reflections, and I am in an ordinary domestic situation with both a central ceiling light and a table lamp. I have no problem in remote locations either. The only time I have seen a problem with the glossy displays is in the Apple Stores themselves, with their multi-directional, specialist retail lighting that is far from what 99.9% of users will ever encounter in the real world, whether indoors or out.
I personally believe that anyone who really and truly has some kind of specialist professional need for a matte display would also be insisting on higher resolution, more color-accurate screens than the present 15" in any case.
Sorry... no signature on the petition from me. If anything, I'd prefer a petition calling for a high resolution screen on the 15". Without that, the glossy/matte argument is just about cosmetics.
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The reason it's more visible has nothing to do of course with the extra glass layer on top, who can an extra glass layer on top make it more visible? It's just that this is apple's best ever screen (up until the 17" which is better) released in a portable in terms of brightness and contrast, much better than the older gen mba you are referencing, and hence brighter. It has nothing to do with glossy. That said, if anyone goes to youtube say they can see for themselves that the glossy glass acts as a mirror in any outdoors situation, and lot, lot of people feel that for outdoors use it's just impossible. Imagine if you had this great led screen with no gloss glass on top, outside the visibility would almost double. It's no accident that apple has conceded for the 17", there is a very, very, very good reason that they offer this option which makes them look bad initially as if they are wrong when they claim that there's no difference or no impact of the glossy glass. They have condeded that there is.
 
Sir Cecil said:
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I personally believe that anyone who really and truly has some kind of specialist professional need for a matte display would also be insisting on higher resolution, more color-accurate screens than the present 15" in any case.[...]
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No, not everyone. I do not care for exact color reproduction (I care more for the price), I do not want a resolution higher than the current one, but I do not want glare. I do not want glare when the sun hits me and I see myself in the screen (but, honestly how can you negate this?). I would really like to keep my desks close to the windows, as I have been doing ever since I was able to push a desk. May be it's because here in Italy electricity is expensive and I prefer the sun to bulbs.

- thistle
 
I hope not! That would lower the price of my unibody with matte screen lol. Yes I am selfish! But I do love this thing a lot more now that it's not glossy and I can use it on 1 brightness setting in pretty much all lighting environments without going blind from glare or from the screen being too bright.
 
I feel for you guys

that don't have matte as I do on my early '08 15" Macbook pro and can't stand the glossy. You have my vote!
 
It sounds like a good idea for Apple to do if they want to keep up the business, but I still like the idea of having the glossy screen. I should have chosen it when I first bought my MBP.
 
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