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Phil Schiller: Apple Working With Consumer Reports to Understand MacBook Pro Battery Test
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You think these people are secretly windows/android lovers? They just waste their money buying a Mac book to talk trash about them on the internet?
I think CR is looking at it in a more objective way. Not through rose gold glasses. I'm glad to see they are able to let Apple respond to the problem. There are so many complaints about the issue and don't forget Apple was ignoring that. Removing the battery percentage doesn't fix a problem! So good job CR
What's to understand? They prioritised thinness over everything else, thus the poor battery life.
Exactly. Like the old adage goes, "where there's smoke there's fire".
While you’re just used to the executive trolling at Apple keynotes. So much class that they have to lie or be disingenuous on stage. Man get a hold of yourself.
CR were nice enough to share their test results with everybody. When have Apple ever published theirs to back up their outlandish claims?
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Yes. I would trust long term members posting on forums over a PR/marketing team.
Actually I don't trust markerting teams full stop, it's lies after lies to put a positive spin to be honest .
Why would I lie ? I just spent £3000 on a new laptop running side by side with the 2015 , it has worst battery results in every scenario , if if set the brightness right down I can start approaching apple claims.
Is there a way of disabling the touch bar and re-testing?
Battery:
"The Touch Bar-equipped Pro’s battery life is by no means bad, but it is quite a bit lower than the £1,450 MBP (and slightly lower than the 2015 MBP) in our light Wi-Fi Web browsing test."
http://arstechnica.co.uk/apple/2016/11/macbook-pro-touch-bar-13-15-inch-touch-bar-review/4/
• I also think apple should extend the return period further until Phil Schiller issues another statement about their findings with CR
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I'm sure that apple can replicate the results if CR can and thousands of their users . They have countless reports of poor battery life
As previously mentioned just pop 'activity monitor' in the dock - all the info is there, just a few more clicks than before.
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Apple to CR.....you are running the wrong apps (or maybe you dropped the device).
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Hope not......LiIon batteries are involved!
Apple, you have completely lost touch with reality. 2016 was the year Apple fans will never forget.
Let's see... just this year, I bought a 9.7" iPad Pro, Apple Pencil, Apple Watch series 2 and the Airpods. And they are all working great for me.
I will say that Apple is serving this Apple fan very well.
So, it's clear that the battery on the new MBP IS flawed; remember the first sentence from Schiller? "we put 16GB DDR3 to not affect the battery life"... then hide the battery indicator from the .2 update, then we discovered that there was a big problem with the battery design during the prototype stage... But, who cares, it's thinner than the old MBP! (That, it's still available to buy new, another hint that there's something).
It's a pity, because lot of people here, like me, patiently waited for the upgrade and now we had this.
BTW, if you bought it and you're happy with the new MacBook Pro, I'm happy too for you, but I think that there's major problems with this machine from the very beginning, and Apple indeed knew it. Apple can do mistakes, this is a big one.
It's a pity, because lot of people here, like me, patiently waited for the upgrade and now we had this.
BTW, if you bought it and you're happy with the new MacBook Pro, I'm happy too for you, but I think that there's major problems with this machine from the very beginning, and Apple indeed knew it. Apple can do mistakes, this is a big one.
Sounds like safari is the culprit. I use safari but rarely leave running. I'm a bit OCD about having stuff running when I'm not using it so always close stuff with CMD Q. This would explain why I'm getting between 6 and 11 hours on battery. The lower times when I'm using my windows 10 VM a lot.
Yes I use FREE 'alfred' q + enter most times before closing the lid rMBP 2015
I believe this helps battery life, but some folks might not want to close all programs.
Parallels does seem to use a lot of power but its worth it IMHO.
Apple's obsession with thinness has led to decline in battery. Not everything has to be razor thin.
Then removing the battery timer made them look even shadier. It's like if they ignore the problem they think it will magically go away.
Then removing the battery timer made them look even shadier. It's like if they ignore the problem they think it will magically go away.
It is true. Ritchie goes out of his way to explain/excuse anything and everything wrong with Apple and never does the same with anyone else.
Case in point his "review" of the iPhone battery case. The case is ugly & cheaply made but he excused it as "something people will seldom ever think about again" and a "non-issue". Jim Darlymple similarly excused the design as "Apple made a functional case". If this case was made by ANYONE else, and especially by Samsung, Ritchie & Darlymple would be all over it like flies on a road apple decrying its design.
Ritchie has also excused away Apple's asinine obsession with thinness as "side benefit of what they're obsessed about" which if that were the case, Apple wouldn't be using thinness as a marketing tool used at every keynote and removing ports and so on.
Ritchie is a Apple fanboy hack masquerading as a "journalist" and just about every article I've ever read from Ritchie reads like Apple PR
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Everyone report issues is lying.
Gotcha
How you read my post and concluded I was suggesting those who had issues were "lying" is beyond me. Please don't troll.
Don't even bother, that guy is one of the biggest Apple apologists on MR. Just read his posts, not once has he criticized Apple, always replies to people that attack Apple.
He won't reply to you again, once you reply with logic he goes away.
Sad.
I trust the users of MR, you have no reason to lie, as you said. And it is not 1 or 2 people saying it...
MR like any online community, it's strength is it's members, I'd trust thier opinions over that of someone getting paid to follow the company line. Problem is that if we let companies get away with crap like this, there is no consequences so history repeats itself.
I give companies that own up to thier faults / mistakes credit, at times Apple acts like a spoilt brat who has been caught and lies lies lies never admitting fault. Love their products but geez there is some brainwashing corporate wise in that everything is magical, great, awesome...etc.
I don't get apologists. I'll defend an Apple product if someone is making a false accusation and I own said product. If I don't own it, I will not lie.
Wow I love conjectured "likes" when no one - not even Bloomberg knows for a fact that Apple has pushed its Mac Business to the side.
It's funny but neither does ANY of you.
What I do surmise is that Apple - like every other CEM has to really redefine computer hardware and fast. I'm totally satisfied that that's what afoot here. If anything - Apple like it's peers are trying to see where desktops really fit into a clearly fluctuating computing revolution taking place that was started seriously by iPhone.
I'm also ok thinking that home computing is in a state of flux and where the NEW standards land is anybody's guess.
What's more amazing is the plethora of geniuses here that are self certified soothsayers that all have to opine what Apple should and should not be doing. As if they are all previvy to what is REALLY in Apples development pipeline. None of you know what's coming. This stuff today maybe just a stopgap. Deal with it.
You know how car manufacturers publish fuel economy and emissions figures, and how when you test them in the real world they're nothing like what they claim? Auto makers study the test regime and they tune the car to perform optimally for those tests. So the test measures fuel economy at a steady 56MPH? Let's put a small flat spot in the engine mapping code around there to reduce fuel consumption.
Apple will be doing the same with power consumption based on specific usage scenarios.
So for me, even if it is anecdotal, circumstantial or whatever - I'm always going to go on peoples real world experiences, and 3rd party reviews rather than the 'official' pitch.
I love this line so much.
I just wish I knew how long the pipeline was and which bit got so badly clogged a few years ago.