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Phil Schiller Comments on 'Ninjawords Dictionary' iPhone App Rejection

Infrared said:
If you'd like to pay the developer while they wait for
Apple, I'm sure your contribution would be welcome ;)
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I am Sure they Would,:D But really it's not the Point is it.;)

Even though this would make a great "NEW' Topic on it's own to address all the other speculation out there,

There are no winners or losers here, it's all speculation of what if.

The Dead Horse has been Beaten Enough, I am Leaving well enough alone in the Speculation and Hypothesis department.

Sorry I can't add to the "Wait for the 3.0 release and how long Question" But since it was not part of the Original post and the Developer said nothing directly about it, *(Until The Apple Response, Then we got more of what really happened) i would be as guilty as those who made the assumption that the Developer did no wrong.

And in my line of work, facts save people, Speculation without hard proof just gets them locked up unjustly. I will have no part of a "What If" and "Maybe You Should" Injectable clause that was not addressed directly in the Original (OP) Post.:)

And in any case, reading all postings on the subject you can see that there are allot of people with different views on the subject.

It Doesn't Make them wrong and it doesn't make what I say right, it only shows there are allot of ways to look at a subject and respect each others standing without it being a pissing contest with winners and losers.:)

Ok, Done Here for this topic, Allot of good reading and views on this subject.:)
 
Virtue

Freedom of Speech is important, however, given today's loose culture, I am glad that Apple seeks to maintain some discretion in their categories. More structure and formality feels safer to me... just my opinion :).
 
Well, I'm glad Apple cleared this up but still, these App Store rejections are getting to be a little much... but I get what tigerphilosophy is saying.
 
jmargolese said:
And to be clear, Apple has a monopoly on the iPhone market.
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What is the point of saying something like that?

The iPhone is not a market. The iPhone is a product that is part of the cell phone market. Apple has nothing even close to a monopoly on the cell phone market.

If you insist on viewing the iPhone as a "market," you still have no basis upon which to make such a statement. Apple allows anyone into the App Store. The only way you could claim Apple has a monopoly on that would be if they sold only Apple developed software through it. And even then, it's a flimsy argument.

appleman99 said:
Well, I'm glad Apple cleared this up but still, these App Store rejections are getting to be a little much... but I get what tigerphilosophy is saying.
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More than 60K apps in the App Store and the few rejected ones here and there are "getting to be a little much"? Seriously? Do you believe that especially in light of the fact that Apple has a fairly consistent record with letting in such apps after the initial problem is addressed? I'd say we should keep things in perspective.
 
inkswamp said:
More than 60K apps in the App Store and the few rejected ones here and there are "getting to be a little much"? Seriously? Do you believe that especially in light of the fact that Apple has a fairly consistent record with letting in such apps after the initial problem is addressed? I'd say we should keep things in perspective.
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I'm willing to give them some time to get the App Store in order but I could care less how many apps are in the store or what the acceptance rate is. the only reason I would give them time is because Schiller Actually acknowledged there was a problem and not ignoring it. What I do know is this:

1. Google voice Apps have been removed from the App Store.
2. Qik is not allowed on the iPhone.
3. Skype is crippled.
4. Slingbox is crippled.
5. Apple is no longer allowing e-book apps into the store.
6. I cannot take a document that I've made on the iPhone and mail it (vice versa also applies).

While the iPhone is a smartphone (probably the best) it also happens that it is the most limited smartphone because these capabilities exist on other smartphones along with many other features. The features and apps that everybody wants are either being crippled or rejected. You can say that AT&T takes some of the blame here but it doesn't matter. At the end of the day this is Apple's problem as well. Regardless of how many apps are on the store there remains many problems.
 
DavidLeblond said:
I just got a rejection for the Lite version of my game, Claustrophobia, because in the About section under Help, I have links to the freesound project where I got my sounds from. On THAT page, they have somewhere a Google Search bar. Apple said in their email:

"Claustrophobia Battle Client 1.0 allows unfiltered access to Google Search, which includes frequent mature or suggestive themes. Applications must be rated accordingly for the highest level of content that the user is able to access."

Therefore I either have to remove all links from my help section or make the game 17+. I also cannot mention any features found in the full version of my app.

Looking on my iPhone now I see several lite versions that mention features found in the full version. And looking on the App Store Google Mobile is rated 4+. This has gone too far!

EDIT: The full version of the game has the exact same links to freesound.org, yet was approved.
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I think the problem in Apple's eyes with apps that offer built in web browsing such as yours is that they can circumvent the parental controls for Safari: IIRC, even if Safari is disabled in Parental Controls, embedded web browsers in apps will still work.
This is really a limitation in Apple's implementation of Parental Controls but they seem to have taken the view that it's best to stop any applications with embedded browsers that allow things such as google search, etc, from being delivered to under 17's.
 
[censored] it all, this sort of [censored] college humor or whatever [censored]-[censored] garbage this is can be left to the inane [censored]-chewing [censored]-faces that like this sort of useless and witless exercise in mediocrity.

Look, people, there's already so much garbage on the Internet. Is this mediocrity really worth defending? I don't care how stupid Apple is with their app rejections... they need to reject more cruddy material, not less.
 
MooseUK said:
The fact that a) MacRumours feels the need to report about Gruber; and b) that Schiller feels the need to write to Gruber about something that does not concern him in any way, shape or form, is the story. Gruber is illegitimate in the eyes of everyone except the fanboy sycophants. I can only conclude you are in that category. God help you.
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killmoms said:
I find it amusing that you have so much personal rancor for someone you've likely never met. The volume and frequency of your protests really just makes it sound like you're jealous of his success.
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He doesn't write as well as Gruber, anyway. ;)
 
corydoras said:
I am not sure Apples defense over ninja words is correct. They have rejected other dictionaries for lesser reasons. Read it straight from the developer:

http://robrohan.com/2008/07/30/xiaocidian-is-dead/
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However, this application will never be available outside of my own phone. Of course, I can’t say why. I’ll only say that I wont be writing any more iPhone applications (aside from ones people pay me to write for them).

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*LTD* said:
However, this application will never be available outside of my own phone. Of course, I can’t say why. I’ll only say that I wont be writing any more iPhone applications (aside from ones people pay me to write for them).

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And right next to the article :
Xiao CiDian – Air Version
As you might know I wrote an iPhone application that has been rejected from the AppStore. The application was a Chinese to English / English to Chinese dictionary based around the free CC-CEDICT dictionary. (The reason it was rejected was because it could define curse words)
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Guess we know WHY it was rejected.
 
Now could the same logic be applied with Windows? IMHO I think its about time that Uncle $am clamps down on apple... More and more cell phones are turning into PCs. Thus the rules that apply to PC OSes may have to be applied to mobile OSes...

Goona said:
Maybe because Safari is not a store like the App store, you think you can walk to Wal Mart and demand they sell cookies you made at home. The App store is a closed system period!
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Lets be honest here..most apps on the iphone are crap as well. There is only a few real useful apps... I bet most of the android apps are ported iphone apps...

uberamd said:
Yeah, and the Android Market is full of quality apps *rolls eyes*. I have a G1, and I had a very hard time finding many useful apps.
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FearNo1 said:
Lets be honest here..most apps on the iphone are crap as well. There is only a few real useful apps... I bet most of the android apps are ported iphone apps...
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I wish, but no they aren't. I did tireless searching on Android for good apps similar to the ones I have on my 3GS and couldn't find hardly any viable replacements. Like I say, Android has potential, but it isn't there yet.
 
inkswamp said:
More than 60K apps in the App Store and the few rejected ones here and there are "getting to be a little much"? Seriously? Do you believe that especially in light of the fact that Apple has a fairly consistent record with letting in such apps after the initial problem is addressed? I'd say we should keep things in perspective.
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I understand that they only some apps are being rejected, but they're being rejected or given 17+ ratings for little things that shouldn't make it be rejected or have a 17+ rating.
 
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