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Phil Schiller Discusses 16-Inch MacBook Pro, Says Virtual Esc Key Was Number One Complaint About Touch Bar
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My daughter had an iPad last year and a chromebook this year. She hates the chromebook wishes she had the iPad back. I’ve done my entire first year of college on just an iPad. That includes text books.
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Not only the missing physical ESC key but also the physical function keys were common complaints. Should've kept the physical function key row and allow adding the gimmicky emoji bar as an option and not forced.
What an ignorant thing to say. Chromebooks expose kids to Linux which has greater than 90% marketshare in the data center, cloud, embedded, etc. iOS/iPadOS is irrelevant in the real world. Not surprising since he's more like the Steve Ballmer of Apple and not someone competent like Steve Wozniak.
What an ignorant thing to say. Chromebooks expose kids to Linux which has greater than 90% marketshare in the data center, cloud, embedded, etc. iOS/iPadOS is irrelevant in the real world. Not surprising since he's more like the Steve Ballmer of Apple and not someone competent like Steve Wozniak.
Biggest complaint about the touch bar is the Touch Bar itself in my opinion.
They could have also just made two versions. One with the TB, and one without, problem solved.
I've had a 2017 and 2018 MBP and haven't yet encountered any stuck keys. Recently, though, I did encounter a stuck key on my magic keyboard w/ number pad while using my iMac.
He si right, but I will really miss butterfly keyboard.
Apple's marketing chief Phil Schiller has spoken with CNET's Roger Cheng about the new 16-inch MacBook Pro, reflecting on the new Magic Keyboard, the Touch Bar, and many other aspects of the notebook.
When asked about the redesigned scissor keyboard on the 16-inch MacBook Pro, Schiller acknowledged that the butterfly keyboards on recent MacBook Pro models have received a "mixed reaction" due in part to "some quality issues" that could result in sticky, repeating, or nonfunctional keys.
Schiller says Apple carefully considered customer feedback and found that many professional users wanted the MacBook Pro to have a similar keyboard as the standalone Magic Keyboard for the iMac:Another common request among professionals was to bring back a physical Esc key. Schiller said it was the "number one" complaint about the Touch Bar. To its credit, Apple listened and made the change:When asked if Apple ever plans to merge the Mac and iPad, Schiller insisted the devices will remain separate:Schiller also downplayed the possibility of a touchscreen Mac, as Apple always has.
At the very end of the interview, Schiller takes a shot at Google's Chromebooks in the classroom, describing them as "cheap testing tools" that do not allow kids to succeed. Naturally, Schiller said Apple thinks the iPad is the "ultimate tool" for a child to learn on and be the most engaged.The full interview contains several more questions and answers and is a worthwhile read.
Article Link: Phil Schiller Discusses 16-Inch MacBook Pro, Says Virtual Esc Key Was Number One Complaint About Touch Bar
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100% chance.
It was the number one complaint about the touchbar. Not about the keyboard assembly as a whole.
18" Macbook Pro.
Eighteen inches at 4.9 pounds has been doable for years.
$2,000- desktop
I bought a Dell Aurora R6 with nVidia 1660 RTX, nvme drive, 16GB RAM, 8 core i9 processor and liquid cooling delivered for less than $1,600-
The Mini is garbage that I'll never think of buying.
Eighteen inches at 4.9 pounds has been doable for years.
$2,000- desktop
I bought a Dell Aurora R6 with nVidia 1660 RTX, nvme drive, 16GB RAM, 8 core i9 processor and liquid cooling delivered for less than $1,600-
The Mini is garbage that I'll never think of buying.
This is why i tell people feedback what you want or don't want to Apple. How do they know what you want or don't want if you never tell them. FEED BACK TO APPLE! https://www.apple.com/feedback/
Take it from someone who's helped to deploy Chrome OS through education programs and have personally suggested it to people with no other requirements than occasional video/audio streams, office file creation/editing, mail, internet browsing, etc. Excluding needing to author/compile applications, video/audio editing, game development, anything extremely CPU/GPU intensive, or specific applications to a platform; Chrome OS is phenomenal for general, everyday use whether at home or in public schools. The price and 3 years support for updates is great, as well. Battery life is easily double that of Windows/Linux/macOS based notebooks. All within a budget of $150-300. So, not just supporting that this is the OS to replace another. My requirements exceed ever relying on Chrome OS and I favor a Linux/BSD distro. My opinion is if you have confidence in the growth of a product and the stability of its future at these premium prices, then you don't feel a need to make any derogatory comments at a competitor for a particular environment they serve. For, most educators/students in public elementary to high school, Chrome OS on Chromebooks are perfect and aren't lacking in providing a better experience for children. Public schools can't afford Apple products. Maybe if Apple is concerned that schoolchildren are receiving a lackluster education with technology, then they should have an exclusive education only hardware/pricing. They tried it with eMac sometime ago and dropped it like a hot potato because it didn't make them a large enough profit.
I went and read it closely and you are correct.
Schiller also said "We had to increase the travel in the notebook back to about a millimeter because a lot of pros like a little bit longer travel, yet fit it into a thin and light design (emphasis added)."
Dude, a lot of PEOPLE like more travel; not just "pro's."
Or maybe he meant "pro's" as in the "pro's" the iPhone 11 Pro is made for, since that is basically everyone.
Indeed. Maybe the “additional spacing” between the top row and the touchbar will mean I accidentally trigger the touchbar less often. Maybe not. But as a touch typist touchbar is a significant downgrade. Can’t even adjust volume without having to stop and look down.
Would be much nicer if they just put individual keys with OLED caps in that top row.
My problem with the Touch Bar in the 2.5 years I've owned one has been I've never found a use for it. I just found myself missing the old keys and set them to be virtualized. A physical escape key is nice, but I miss having a physical Exposé key, a physical Launchpad key and physical volume keys.
So happy they kept the Touch Bar while giving us the physical escape key. Best of both worlds.
"To its credit, Apple listened and made the change:"
Four years. It took four years. Credit denied.
Four years. It took four years. Credit denied.
I prefer physical keys that click by far. And I don't use them as volume or brightness, but as actual Fn function shortcuts in professional apps (Visual Studio, Photoshop). I understand that the touch bar allows the functionality to change between apps, but other shortcuts like Cmd+C, Cmd+V are physical keys, and I prefer the function keys to be physical as well. Note that I'm a hardcore developer and spend a huge amount of time with very complicated software, so I'm not the average user. And I almost always use an external keyboard and mouse for serious work, so I don't care that much. I'm pretty much crippled with just the MacBook keyboard and trackpad no matter what.
Hey, enjoy another generation of not so well thought out tech.
Display issues, shoddy keyboards, all at a premium price. We'll announce a recall and fix a few units or pay back the people who paid to get those units fixed, but didn't purchase AppleCare? Oh well, you're SOL for not buying our mark up on what is all ready a premium priced product.
This is my second MBP in a row with issues (either keyboard or display) that wasn't made right until I got AmEx in the mix. Then POOF! it gets fixed.
Had I paid cash for both my most recent MBP's I would probably be moving away from Apple products. Even my wife considered switching back to a Samsung phone, but I was dumb enough to buy her an Apple Watch before my most recent surgery as a memento in case of my untimely demise. Now she's going to stay with the iPhone.
She's also sticking with shrewing me to death. I went outside to start her car in sub zero (C) weather this morning and what does she do? Spends the last 15 min before I leave for work kvetching at me over the maps app in her phone knowing where she lives. I told her to turn the feature off. Nothing. Just more yelling.
So I escaped to the comfort of my desk at work.
What, too much?
Display issues, shoddy keyboards, all at a premium price. We'll announce a recall and fix a few units or pay back the people who paid to get those units fixed, but didn't purchase AppleCare? Oh well, you're SOL for not buying our mark up on what is all ready a premium priced product.
This is my second MBP in a row with issues (either keyboard or display) that wasn't made right until I got AmEx in the mix. Then POOF! it gets fixed.
Had I paid cash for both my most recent MBP's I would probably be moving away from Apple products. Even my wife considered switching back to a Samsung phone, but I was dumb enough to buy her an Apple Watch before my most recent surgery as a memento in case of my untimely demise. Now she's going to stay with the iPhone.
She's also sticking with shrewing me to death. I went outside to start her car in sub zero (C) weather this morning and what does she do? Spends the last 15 min before I leave for work kvetching at me over the maps app in her phone knowing where she lives. I told her to turn the feature off. Nothing. Just more yelling.
So I escaped to the comfort of my desk at work.
What, too much?
I would like to see MagSafe comeback, but the software is becoming more of an issue for me than the hardware at this point. They need to bring back referenced libraries to Music/Photos/Books. I would love to upgrade to this new MBP, but I will stick with my '14 MBP running Mojave for now.