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Phil Schiller Goes on Offensive Against Android and Samsung
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So why can't someone custom build a pc with dual top of the line Xeon's and equal the Mac Pro? And then throw in video cards of your choice?
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Because this fragmentation means, that at the moment more than HALF of the Android users won't be able to use the nice new stuff that has been added in Android 4.0 and more than 80% won't be able to use the features that have been added in Android 4.1, like Google Now.
To give you a more striking example:
There are now about 125 million Android users who can use Google Now.
If Google were to release Google Now on iOS - and we know that they are going to do that from the leaked video teaser - with a requirement of iOS 6 - which is running on more than 300 million devices now, if we add the sales since those numbers have been released i guess there are more than 330 million iOS 6 devices - the number of people able to use Google Now would nearly quadruple!
125 million Android users who can use Google Now,
330 million iOS users who can use Google Now.
iOS users get many Android features therefore EARLIER than the majority of Android users.
Android 5.0 in the summer?
Who cares, the past shows us that there will be less than 15% of Android devices running Android 5.0 in January of 2014.
iOS 7?
Will probably run on 22% of devices after three days, 83% after five months.
Android is the Ohhh and Ahhh feature OS, that few people will actually use until a year after it's release, while iOS gets the features to the people.
Who makes a laptop or desktop computer with better build quality than Apple? I would love to know.
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Business class laptops have the same build quality in many cases (hell even the business dells are impressively built), that said by the time you're spending $1000+ for business class, you might as well buy the Mac.
With your gadgets it sounds like your life is fragmented haha
So that makes sense
Did you just say games?
People have not important things to do on computer than play
That said, I'd rather have a computer that doesn't crash while doing every day tasks... Like umm oh yeah my 2000 dollar piece of crap dell
Actually I have, 3 of my really good friends all have android phones. I mess with them on occasion. But my friend also had his android phone reset by itself and his backup was corrupted. That was a case I was happy to have an iPhone being I have never had an iPhone reset itself or a backup be corrupt after 5 years.
Everyone has mentioned fragmentation of Android like they actually know anything about it. My belief is you're merely repeating nonsense from an internet post like a parrot.
First of all who cares if it is fragmented? I've owned and used many Android devices in the past and I never once thought about how the OS fragmentation affected my ability to use my devices even if it wasn't using the latest and greatest version of Android.
First of all who cares if it is fragmented? I've owned and used many Android devices in the past and I never once thought about how the OS fragmentation affected my ability to use my devices even if it wasn't using the latest and greatest version of Android.
I had to download the "Where's My Droid?" app.
With the iPhone, don't you also have to download an app for the same feature?
One has to be careful with news stories. Samsung never releases sales figures; Apple does. Analysts can only estimate Samsung shipments, not sales. And they compare all Samsung smartphones to iPhones.
I don't know the numbers either, but what is important is which single smartphone is more attractive NOT, android vs iOS.
For Q4 2012:
Most analysts believe the Suwon, South Korea-based Samsung shipped more than 60 million smartphones, including the Galaxy S III and Galaxy Note II, during the three months ending in December. Apple said it sold 47.8 million iPhones in the quarter.
So ALL smartphones shipped vs 3 iPhones sold. No clue how many S3 actually sold. But most analysts believe Apple wins here.
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Never had an android phone do that to me either. But I know peoplewho had major problems with their iphones.
There are lemons in every line of phones..
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Exactly! When I had a gs2 I didn't upgrade to ics and my phone fine. The thing is people don't understand android phones don't need to be the lastest os to run efficiently.
Never had an android phone do that to me either. But I know peoplewho had major problems with their iphones.
There are lemons in every line of phones..
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Exactly! When I had a gs2 I didn't upgrade to ics and my phone fine. The thing is people don't understand android phones don't need to be the lastest os to run efficiently.
No. Find My iPhone comes with every iPhone.
Check it out at:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/icloud/#find
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Please compare a single series(like the galaxy s series) to iPhone because your statistic is plain ridiculous.
Too bad, because Android 4.0 ICS is the one version of Android that turns it from "******" to "not bad".
ICS looks better, works better (less stuttering) and has a better browser.
Your comment is completely false, there never has been an Android update that was more important for Android and which made Android work that much more efficiently.
Also, new versions usually contain security updates that fix holes that could be exploited to contaminate your smartphone, which could lead to identity theft.
That's easy, because the numbers for the entire Galaxy S series are the only ones that Samsung has released in the last months.
100 million Galaxy S devices since the Galaxy S 1 in 2010.
iPhone: 47 million devices in the last quarter!
Fair enough. You make good points. But I didn't say the users themselves are basic. By basic student, I apologize, I meant to say basic student needs. And to be fair as a mac user yourself, wouldn't you agree the Mac OS X operating system is pretty user friendly and something someone with little to no computer experience would be able to use right out of the box?
As for running Vmware or Parallels that's called compromising. And running boot camp is another compromise. Why should I have to run a subpar instance of Windows in emulation or have to reboot to another partition whenever I want to use a program. Macs are great for basic computing and average users. That's not an insult towards Macs or towards the users, Apple designed a system that's easy and simple because the average user doesn't need every bell and whistle and likely isn't what one might consider a power user. For some it's sufficient, for others its not.
As for gaming I'll admit Macs have come along way in terms of gaming. But they still have a long way to go. You listed a few games, but there's thousands of games out there for computers. And my Windows desktop can run them all without an issue. It doesn't count if you have to reboot your Mac into Windows, that's not the same as saying "my computer can handle games just fine." The hardware may be able to at times but the software as is on a Mac can't.
Like you I dropped Windows for Mac and thought I'd never look back. But I did look back and realized how much I was compromising in terms of productivity, functionality, use, and gaming and went back to PC. I built a custom gaming PC and bought a high end productivity laptop for work. Total for both still cost less than one Mac. And that's a whole other discussion for a whole other time.
Correct. All the cars, as I noted are in the $20-30K range, which is avg MSRP for a mid-line car, but all made by higher end makers in an effort to grab sales from the lower end of the market. Your point was that these companies didn't make affordable cars, but they do.
Now I'd hardly say a Galaxy III S is bottom feeder model like the Yaris. Come on, it's Samsung's flagship and costs the same as an iPhone. But, an iPhone 4 BTW is free so maybe that qualifies as the "Yaris" model.
I think you are being a little pedant. My point is these days even companies that once catered only to higher end products with above average prices are making an effort to go down market. Whether it's with a niche product or not, they recognize growth on the top end is exhausted but the lower ends still have plenty of fish.
Whatever Apple once was, it no longer can be. It can't exist with just one basic model. It has to broaden it's customer base. That doesn't mean it has to stop making quality products, just different ones for a variety of demographics. The era of "one size fits all" only still exists with baseball caps. I think they recognized that partially with the iPad mini. We'll see what happens with the iPhone, and if that becomes a genuine product line, and not just a product.
what other laptops use a solid unibody of metal? most are plastic junk. some use metal pieces. i wouldnt be surprised if samsung is copying unibody, but i dunno for sure.
I didn't say BMW et. al. didn't make affordable cars. I said they didn't make low-end cars. I think you are the one being a pedant. A $29K compact car is affordable, but it isn't low-end.
The Galaxy S3 and S4 are like the Audi A6 and A8 of Samsung's line. However, Samsung also makes low-end phones, many of which are sold in emerging markets at sub-$100 price levels unsubsidized and never see our shores. They run old versions of Android (and I don't mean 4.1), have lower-quality screens, and don't have the fit and finish of the Galaxy line. Those would be equivalent to SKODA models. Sure, both a SKODA and an Audi are made by VW, but they are vastly different.
Samsung equates "small" with low-end. For instance, the Galaxy S3 Mini, rather than being a full-featured Galaxy with a 3.7" screen, was feature crippled (it lacked LTE and had a slower processor). Call it the Cadillac Cimmaron of phones.
Apple's approach so far has been to reposition their older models as their "affordable" phones. I don't disagree it has limits. There really is no car equivalent to that (perhaps you can argue Chevy or Ford using an older Cadillac or Lincoln platform for a current model). I do think Apple may well make a truly current, more affordable phone (akin to an iPhone Nano), but I don't see them going as low end as Samsung.
Not at all. Say you're a great looking, young fit guy in a pick up bar. If a fat middled aged guy walks in (your competition) and you feel threatened, then there's probably something wrong with you.
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I think Apple can be quite arrogant and think they have everything sewn up. Android is making them think twice.
Not even close. My employer-issued "business class" HP is crap. My previous HP was junk, but at least it had some aluminum pieces in the shell. My new one is cheap plastic all the way around. The kind of plastic you can't help but rap your fingernails against and think "I can't believe they actually built and sold this thing, and I can't believe we bought it." Not a speck of glass or aluminum anywhere. Utter garbage as far as build quality is concerned. Apple's laptops are miles ahead of this piece of junk.
They do try to fool you by giving you an Apple-esque "ProBook" name. How original.
Previously IBM, today Lenovo's T-series is superior in build quality and durability. Its plastic case is wrapped around a very robust metal cage, all components can be accessed with minimum requirements on skill and tools, the drives are hot-swappable, you can add a second battery or any other accessory if you like. Then there's built-in WAN, plenty of ports, ...
An aluminium case is not the best material choice for a notebook case, as it can be deformed and it's easy to get scratches.
I really don't understand why most people in this forum believe that everything without an Apple logo on its case is mediocre by default. Windows 7 for example is rock-solid. I'm using Windows based PCs/notebook since decades and I can't remember the last time that I had a serious stability problem. My last bluescreen was perhaps 12 years ago with NT 4.0. And even W7's user experience and productivity is not far away of ML, it's just different.
As others have already said in this thread: (many) other systems are not worse, they're just different. Everyone should chose what best fits his/her purpose.
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I agree. Like I said I enjoy both. I enjoy the root and custom rom game at first but then I would get tired of it, or it would start crashing! I guess that is why I am always trying out a different phone.
