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Update: Samsung's lawyers asked Schiller whether the design of the iPhone would be changing with the next version of the device, but he declined to comment on future products and Samsung apparently declined to press the issue further.
I guess Samsung lawyer is waiting for iPhone 5 to replace his smartphone. :)
 
Schiller did good with Apple's lawyers. But it appears (in my opinion) that Samsung is doing a good job with their cross - getting Schiller's to bury himself. The survey, the home button, etc.

I wonder if this trial will be made into a TV movie or something...

barbarians at the gate "part duex"
 
So, long after much of their marketing targets rich women, moms, and the daughters of rich moms, their 2011 study confirms that 85 percent of rich women think "design and aesthetics" is important.

Hope they didn't pay too much for this research!
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Ok, this is the part when you trash my statement:

Ready, and go!

I think design is very important -- and that doesn't mean styling. I'm a man. So much the arguments I hear from anti-Apple types is some kind of inane anti-feminine ridicule.

Jobs said that Apple is at the intersection of arts and technology. They're selling a lot of stuff. Customers like it.
 
Yes. But earlier he spoke of customer confusion. I would imagine that Samsung's lawyer will bring this all up again. It's hard to claim customer confusion and that the items look alike AND also say that one product looks better than the other and that there are unique features to each one respectively.

Samsung sold an Android phone with a metal bezel around the front, with a single button on the glass face & even a dock for icons that was a shameless copy of the iPhone. Yes, that version could cause confusion. Now, in a break from the generic black phone, Samsung has brought in color to its line-up… white. Just white, like an iPhone :-/
 
Forstall says he has 1,000 people reporting directly to him. Really? I find that hard to believe.

Apple is a 20,000 employee company in corporate. Scott is a senior Vice President. I'm quite sure there's 1000 employees under his vice-presidency. Heck, our director has close to 200 people under him where I work and he's just that, a director. He has an higher level director above him before the vice-president. Our director's director probably has close to 800 or so people under him, and the vice-president has like 3-4 directions like this under him... so 1000 is actually quite small for a vice-presidency.
 
Samsung sold an Android phone with a metal bezel around the front, with a single button on the glass face & even a dock for icons that was a shameless copy of the iPhone. Yes, that version could cause confusion. Now, in a break from the generic black phone, Samsung has brought in color to its line-up… white. Just white, like an iPhone :-/

Only that's not entirely accurate now is it? They also have blue.

ETA: Oh. And they also have brown. And red.

ETA: And it looks like they also have a green phone too. And Purple.
 
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Apple is a 20,000 employee company in corporate. Scott is a senior Vice President. I'm quite sure there's 1000 employees under his vice-presidency. Heck, our director has close to 200 people under him where I work and he's just that, a director. He has an higher level director above him before the vice-president. Our director's director probably has close to 800 or so people under him, and the vice-president has like 3-4 directions like this under him... so 1000 is actually quite small for a vice-presidency.

Ok I guess I read it wrong. I saw directly and thought no way does he have 1000 direct reports. But 1000 people working directly on iOS. Sure.
 
Update: Samsung's lawyers asked Schiller whether the design of the iPhone would be changing with the next version of the device, but he declined to comment on future products and Samsung apparently declined to press the issue further. [...]

Samsung's lawyers also got confused by the look-alike Samsung phones.
They handed the wrong one to Schiller. Courtesy of 9 to 5 Mac's trial-related Twitter posts:

RT @reckless: Samsung just got its own phones mixed up while cross examining Schiller. Schiller: "They're confusing." vrge.co/M99BQp—
The Verge (@verge) August 03, 2012
Read more at http://9to5mac.com/2012/08/03/live-tweets-and-analysis-from-the-apple-vs-samsung-trial/
 
Samsung's lawyers also got confused by the look-alike Samsung phones.
They handed the wrong one to Schiller. Courtesy of 9 to 5 Mac's trial-related Twitter posts:

Yes. they mixed up their own phones. They didn't hand Schiller an iPhone.

ETA: I wouldn't take too much of The Verge seriously anyway - based on Forbes' account - The Verge is leaving out quite a bit while also adding their own sensationalism.

Fine if you want to be entertained. Not so much if you're looking for truth.
 
Yes. they mixed up their own phones. They didn't hand Schiller an iPhone.

ETA: I wouldn't take too much of The Verge seriously anyway - based on Forbes' account - The Verge is leaving out quite a bit while also adding their own sensationalism.

Fine if you want to be entertained. Not so much if you're looking for truth.

funny people even try to bring this up, it's definitely easier to confuse phones that both say SAMSUNG on the front
 
Forstall is parroting back marketing-speak

"we wanted to give people the entire Web, the entire Internet experience"

...without flash. And before someone jumps on me for the comment. Remember - this was 2004-2006... HTML 5 wasn't even remotely an option...
 
Forstall is parroting back marketing-speak

"we wanted to give people the entire Web, the entire Internet experience"

...without flash. And before someone jumps on me for the comment. Remember - this was 2004-2006... HTML 5 wasn't even remotely an option...

it didn't even have the full phone experience (MMS)
 
Not initially.

People seem to forget that the original iPhone was a "feature" phone, not a Smartphone.
It was limited in many ways.

You are totally right. I've owned every single iPhone. Heck the first iPhone everyone in my circle wondered why I paid $600 for the "feature" phone.
 
You are totally right. I've owned every single iPhone. Heck the first iPhone everyone in my circle wondered why I paid $600 for the "feature" phone.
I still have my original iPhone.
It's sitting in a box about 10 feet away from me right now.
Still works too... granted 3.1.3 SUCKS on this phone.
 
I still have my original iPhone.
It's sitting in a box about 10 feet away from me right now.
Still works too... granted 3.1.3 SUCKS on this phone.

Hell I have an original iPhone still factory sealed sitting in my closet. Have no idea what to do with it.
 
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-10-07/tech/30253408_1_apple-board-apple-stores-steve-jobs/2

ROSE: What's interesting too this evening is that most
of us - most of us are directly connected to him because we
have an iPad, we have a phone, we have a Mac computer. We
know and understand what he was about because we can see it
and hold it and feel it.

SCHMIDT: Well, in that sense I think the artist role
makes a lot of sense. He's the first person to take computing
and computing platforms and make products that actually cause
people to fall in love. In love with their products, in love
with the artistry, in love with using information. And that I
think is his primary contribution. He also of course has
changed the course of history with the kinds of things he's
done with respect to the scale of the platforms that were
built at Apple.

But I think ultimately if you look at the success of the
iPod, for example, which everybody said couldn't be done, or
the success of the iPhone, which really brought in the
smartphone revolution and really sort of invented it, he will
get the credit. And he and the teams that he led deserve that
credit for doing it.
 
Hell I have an original iPhone still factory sealed sitting in my closet. Have no idea what to do with it.
That is a piece of history you have there. Hang on to it.

The battery in mine is about 50% of what it used to be, but taking it apart is out of the question. Too easy to damage it.
My daughter used it for a while, but she now has my wife's old iPhone 4.
 
That is a piece of history you have there. Hang on to it.

The battery in mine is about 50% of what it used to be, but taking it apart is out of the question. Too easy to damage it.
My daughter used it for a while, but she now has my wife's old iPhone 4.

Absolutely will do sir. I actually have one iPhone from each redesign sans the 3Gs. That is the only one I am missing.
 
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