Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
I base it being ridiculously amazing, on Marques’s review in the YouTube I posted. The review you posted isn’t the phone, so how you think a different phone’s review is relevant, I don’t understand sorry.

What don't you understand? I referred
To Xiaomi's quality standards indicated by Android Authority, not the Mix initial review. You stated it's "Ridiculously amazing." But you haven't answered my question again, have you personally tested the Mix? Curious.
 
Over the past 5 years of visiting Mac Rumors I've seen contributor comments slowly progress from being Pro-Apple to Anti-Apple. It seems like Apple is losing the interest of their most vocal and knowledgeable customers.
 
Also once again, Phil, and by extension Tim Cook, have to follow up a missed opportunity by excusing Apple's lack of presence and innovation through a reactionary public relations statement. This is becoming the new norm for Apple. This company once defined the conversation, now Phil and Tim have to draw up statements only after big tech events and successes by their competition to make sure consumers don't forget about Apple by reminding them how great Steve Jobs was.
 
What don't you understand? I referred
To Xiaomi's quality standards indicated by Android Authority, not the Mix initial review. You stated it's "Ridiculously amazing." But you haven't answered my question again, have you personally tested the Mix? Curious.
I already answered you, and the review you posted isn’t relevant because it isn’t the phone.
 
I already answered you, and the review you posted isn’t relevant because it isn’t the phone.

All you have managed to do is deflect and you never answered any questions I asked. Did you personally test the Mix for the fourth time? And how many times does this need repeating, I was noting the quality standards advised with Xiaomi, which leads me To ask you, why is this phone "Ridiculously Amazing." I personally think you are avoiding and are refuting to hide behind the fact you have no insight Xiaomi and you likely
Didn't even know it's available in China as well.

If you respond to this, please answer the questions without deflecting to "I already answered your questions", which in fact, from The past four posts, you haven't.
 
This post is the absolute nonsense. I used Palm/Handspring PDAs and later the Treo phone (for 2 years) and they were a GALAXY away from the iPhone in EVERY category. There was not a single function that the Treo performed that the iPhone did not completely put to shame. It was an IMMEDIATE sea change.

Sure, like bluetooth audio streaming and 3G that wasn't even present on the iPhone? The iPhone was an improvement and brought smartphones to the masses partly due to the cool factor. However, time has probably given it more credit than it deserves. I agree with others that the app store was more consequential to it's success than anything else.
[doublepost=1483991897][/doublepost]
The expectations on some people really are ridiculously high. I can't believe that people don't appreciate the features of the iPhone.
When you think about it and everything that is taken for granted.

4K filming on a mobile device!

The Dual Camera on the 7 Plus really is great and so is the portrait mode! Although it is a software feature.

How thin and light these devices are.

Love photos

3D Touch

The power of these devices and so on. It's almost like people are dismissing them and constantly wanting something else. Things take time, being more patient is what's needed while actually appreciating the technology we have at our disposal. Of course that won't happen, people don't appreciate anything any more.

4K - around on competing mobile devices long before iPhone

Dual Cameras - more of a gimmick than anything. The portrait mode doesn't work all that well frankly. Most real photographers will agree. Software generated Bokeh doesn't get close to the real thing. Also the smaller sensor on the "telephoto" lens has lower quality. Wide angle sensor/lens combo just caught up with the competition.

Thin and Light - I'll give you thin, but light it isn't compared to others. That thinness also comes at the expense of battery life.

Photos - Live photos were around long before the iPhone implemented them.

3DTouch - haven't seen it live up to it's potential. Maybe someone will make something truly compelling with it, but not yet. Most implementations are no different than press and hold for a few seconds to get an contextual menu popup.

You love it and that is great. The 7plus is my current device too, more because of the ecosystem than anything else.
 
I think what many people are overlooking here is the impressive ecosystem Apple has built around the iPhone.

The ability to make calls and receive SMSes on your other Apple devices. The Apple Watch. The Airpods. iTunes. iCloud. Siri. iMessage. Apple Music. Apple Pay. Health. The impressive array of ios apps and iPhone accessories. All these may not be specific to the iPhone, but they go a long way towards augmenting its functionality regardless.

And that's why the competition has a very hard time going toe to toe with the iPhone, especially when they have no unique platform to call their own and serve as a differentiating selling point.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jase1125
The fact my teenage kids (as well as my wife and I) chose Galaxy devices over iPhone speaks otherwise, Phil.

Unmatched, my ass.
Just because you choose something else doesn't make your choice right. It's right for you but for many others it's wrong.

I've tried many different Android phones including the Google Pixel but I always return to iPhone. For me that's the right choice. And there is no denying that when the first iPhone was released it was revolutionary and changed how we all communicated.
 
Other companies have caught up and even passed them out hardware wise but the software/hardware combo iphone's have is certainly unmatched.
 
The air must be mighty thin up in that perch Schiller sits on. Better approach would have been to acknowledge iPhone changed the phone landscape & spurred a new tech revolution. It's not credible to say iPhone is unmatched. There is no metric that bears that out. Apple execs just come off arrogant, smarmy, and clueless.

Maybe because they are?
 
My recent experience,

"What is the weather like in Ontario?"
Siri: "It is currently 21 degrees in Ottawa"

Louder voice: "What is the weather like in ONTARIO?"
Siri: "It is currently 21 degrees in Ottawa"

It finally got it the 3rd time. Ontario and Ottawa do not sound alike at all...
Siri isn't good with Canadian
Should try "Hey Siri, what's the weather like in Ottawa Eh?"

But seriously, I hate Siri. It was the first thing I shut it down as soon as I installed Sierra.
 
  • Like
Reactions: nt5672
You're only as good as your latest product. Apple is good, but its edge isn't even close to what it was 10 years ago. Reminiscing on the past is useless in this industry. If you're not careful, you can easily become history, like Novell, Kodak or the Space Shuttle. I still prefer Xcode + Swift to Android Studio + Java.
 
He will never do that. The man believes that his a** is innovating. He loves it.

I believe removing his head from it would qualify as innovating his a**. Seeing as we're calling it that.

I'll give them the earth-shattering 10 years ago, but not since then. Overcomplicated, yes; overpriced, god yes; but earth-shattering no. In fact as they like to keep making them thinner and lighter, the chances of shattering the earth get smaller all the time. Looking around the place however, the chances of shattering the screen seem higher than ever!
 
  • Like
Reactions: antonis
The air must be mighty thin up in that perch Schiller sits on. Better approach would have been to acknowledge iPhone changed the phone landscape & spurred a new tech revolution. It's not credible to say iPhone is unmatched. There is no metric that bears that out. Apple execs just come off arrogant, smarmy, and clueless.

Their attitudes have rubbed off on a lot of Apple consumers as well. I see it on MR all the time. Try asking for some options in System Preferences to customize the green button or allow the option to have cmd+x and cmd+v to cut/paste (move) files in Finder and you'll get BLASTED for it.

It's embarrassing how toxic and arrogant the Apple community has turned.
 
Their attitudes have rubbed off on a lot of Apple consumers as well. I see it on MR all the time. Try asking for some options in System Preferences to customize the green button or allow the option to have cmd+x and cmd+v to cut/paste (move) files in Finder and you'll get BLASTED for it.

It's embarrassing how toxic and arrogant the Apple community has turned.

Sad but true.
 
Psh, you're from NY.. you have an accent :p

and the amusing thing about OLED in the Watch, was Apple's rhetoric. "We are using a brand new technology that will change the watch"... they wouldn't outright call it OLED, because that would be admitting that they're using a technology that was in fact around for over a decade, that was refined through other peoples work. The verbage was used to imply Apple's invented the technology, without actually lieing about where the tech came from

This is my problem with Cue, Ive, Schiller, Cook. They don't "lie", but they offer nothing but platitudes, rhetoric, and claiming how awesome they are by how much money they make. But we really don't get anything of substance.

I think since all of the Apple high up execs with their stock packages have enough "comfort dollars" they stopped working for the money long time ago.

While I believe they MAY, JUST MAY try to come up with better products and ideas, they are totally stuck in what they HAVE to do next.

The old Steve way with secrets and rants and raves hasn't worked for a long time and they don't seem to bring in new talent that matters.

Their product names and marketing language also needs an overhaul. If a product is really good, one doesn't have to use magical, we are excited, courage or thinnest ever etc. etc.

The press and users will sing the praises when you deliver!

As you write, No substance for quite a while and sadly PRO is no longer PRO at Apple.

In their marketing speech I would say:

With each generation of products we question everything and then refocus our efforts to bring you the best user experiences on the planet.


NOT!!!
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.