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Signify today announced that it's going to be easier to get started with the Philips Hue line of lights thanks to a new standalone Bluetooth bulb offering.

The new Philips Hue with Bluetooth bulbs allow those who are newcomers to the Hue ecosystem to get started with a single light. Each of the Bluetooth bulbs can be controlled via an app using Bluetooth, with no need for the Philips Hue Bridge that's normally required for Hue lights.

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Using the new Philips Hue Bluetooth app, users can turn the lights on and off, dim the lights, set the lights to millions of colors or different shades of light, select pre-set scenes, and enable multiple users to control the lights.

There are three versions of the Bluetooth bulbs: White ($14.99), White Ambiance ($24.99), and White and Color Ambiance ($49.99). They're available in the A19 bulb shape and the BR30 downlight.

Because there's no bridge involved these standalone Bluetooth bulbs are not HomeKit enabled, but for people who purchase them and decide to then expand to a larger Hue ecosystem, the bridge can be added at a later date and the bulbs can be connected like any other existing Hue bulbs.

Philips Hue Bluetooth bulbs do work with Amazon Echo, Google Home, and Nest smart display even without the Philips Hue Bridge.

The new Philips Hue Bluetooth lights are available from the Philips Hue website and Amazon starting today.

Article Link: Philips Hue Line Gains Standalone Bluetooth Bulb Option for New Hue Users
 

Massy1989

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Choice is always good for the consumer. Way to go Philips for doing this.

Buying a 3 bulb and bridge combo pack is a big investment on something that many people unfamiliar with IoT wouldn't consider a high-confidence purchase. Buying at $15 bulb that connects to your phone and lets you control it? That's enough to start the Hue addiction.
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If they are the same price as the others wouldn't it make more sense to just make this be the only type of bulb they sell? Just build this into all the bulbs they sell moving forward.

Maybe. I imagine it depends on cost to manufacture w/ and w/o the Bluetooth module and the demand between the two moving forward. I bet they just exhaust the existing supply of non-Bluetooth and move over to w/ Bluetooth model bulbs.
 
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x-evil-x

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I hate bridges.
While I tend to agree the Philip’s bridge never has issues and I mean never. Lifx WiFi stuff sucks plain and simple. I have 3 lifx strips and always having issue with them over time. I have 25-30 hue bulbs, strips, hue tap and dimmer switches and never have issues. Ever.
So while I’m ok with hue Bluetooth stuff I probably won’t buy any. It’s good for people that want to build a smaller system I think though. But I don’t know how well they will perform without the hub.
 
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CarlJ

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It hurt me to read the work ‘bulb’ that many times when we’re obviously talking about led emitters.
If you screw it into a traditional light bulb socket, and it lights up... bulb is a reasonable - and quite understandable - term for it. You're not screwing in an LED emitter itself, you're screwing in a bulb-equivalent that contains an LED as its light source.
 
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ipedro

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It would be great if these could connect directly to a HomePod or AppleTV which already work as HomeKit bridges. The future of home networks is no router. Devices should connect to one another via Bluetooth after which point a device like an iPhone could connect to one and access everything in that mesh network.
 
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Solomani

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This product is weird. Bluetooth-only and therefore it is "not HomeKit enabled"??? o_O

Ummm…. then another company has beaten you, Hue. It's Sylvania. Sylvania sells a Bluetooth LED smart-bulb that does not require a bridge/hub, and it also works with and is controlled by Apple HomeKit devices (such as an iPhone or a Mac). Again, the Sylvania bulb also does not require a router/hub/bridge. But it's completely made for Apple HomeKit. They've done it right. And their bulb was to market over a year ago.

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justperry

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I am not interested in Hue anymore, got the bridge and bulbs last year, the (Huge issue) problem with Hue is you can't control them with your normal in wall switches.
Z-wave is a much better protocol, wish Homekit support for it natively.
I do not need 1 million colours, different shades of white will do, sadly even that can't be controlled with just one switch/dimmer, the only way to control a WW/CW LED strip is to have two momentary switches and two Z-wave dimmers.
 
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If you screw it into a traditional light bulb socket, and it lights up... bulb is a reasonable - and quite understandable - term for it. You're not screwing in an LED emitter itself, you're screwing in a bulb-equivalent that contains an LED as its light source.

We’re not screwing in the incandescent bulb directly, either.

I understand it’s being used as a reasonable equivalent. Kind of like saying you’re playing a record when streaming an album. The use of the term has morphed over time.
 
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reden

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It hurt me to read the work ‘bulb’ that many times when we’re obviously talking about led emitters.

That's like complaining you got a paper towel when you asked for a napkin.
 
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WBRacing

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Get familiar with it if you don’t have already. For me Hue is the most useful HomeKit product.
Hue is utterly invaluable for us. Our property is really dark inside that we have motion sensors in all transient areas which turn the lights on for ~30seconds as you pass through. The lights (thanks to a new lab) then return to their previous state.

If it wasn't for the sensors and functionality, other bulbs would most probably be on all throughout the day.
 
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procksa49er1120

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It would be great if these could connect directly to a HomePod or AppleTV which already work as HomeKit bridges. The future of home networks is no router. Devices should connect to one another via Bluetooth after which point a device like an iPhone could connect to one and access everything in that mesh network.

I would imagine the opposite. The Home Router will be the Homekit Bridge Device with no need for a box per Manufacturer. If there is no bridge behind a router, and everything is just IoT Mesh connected, whats to stop someone from connecting to your neighbors lights and causing havoc/mischief? Not to mention ISPs need a way to distinguish your from your neighbor and your Internet bill, so there will always be a router as long as their are fiber / cable based ISPs.
 
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konqerror

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It hurt me to read the work ‘bulb’ that many times when we’re obviously talking about led emitters.

LED bulb is the correct term for a incandescent-style retrofit. A bulb consists of the emitters, a power supply, optics and thermal management.
 
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x-evil-x

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I am not interested in Hue anymore, got the bridge and bulbs last year, the (Huge issue) problem with Hue is you can't control them with your normal in wall switches.
Z-wave is a much better protocol, wish Homekit support for it natively.
I do not need 1 million colours, different shades of white will do, sadly even that can't be controlled with just one switch/dimmer, the only way to control a WW/CW LED strip is to have two momentary switches and two Z-wave dimmers.
You could if replaced your light switches with hue dimmers and programmed the buttons to do what you want. There’s also the hue tap both are good for light switches. It takes time to figure out what to do but it’s much better than normal light switches.
 
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ipedro

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I would imagine the opposite. The Home Router will be the Homekit Bridge Device with no need for a box per Manufacturer. If there is no bridge behind a router, and everything is just IoT Mesh connected, whats to stop someone from connecting to your neighbors lights and causing havoc/mischief? Not to mention ISPs need a way to distinguish your from your neighbor and your Internet bill, so there will always be a router as long as their are fiber / cable based ISPs.

Not to get too into networks on an unrelated thread but 5G will cause a decentralization in internet services whereas every device is either connected directly to 5G. Inexpensive low power chips that can go in internet of things devices is one of the major features of 5G.

You won’t need a home router in the same way that you don’t need a router for your iPhone on LTE. 5G speeds and bandwidth will enable us to get rid of home wifi and use over the air cellular data for everything. Other devices will connect to one another as many already do, either via the cloud and their own connection or Bluetooth.
 
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