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The problem is that the majority of people have no interest in the actual quality of the sounds that they listen to. CDs are compromised audio that then gets ripped into lossy MP3/ACC and then listened to on low quality DAC through crappy ear buds.

And most people are fine with that. It is like when Blu-Ray struggled to gain traction because DVD was "good enough" for most people.

Some people actually want to hear music with as much detail and clarity as possible. And without getting into the whole "you can't hear the difference anyway" argument, some people can afford nice things that have the highest quality possible. If that's not you, you don't have insult those who want and can have nice things.

Amen. To each his own. But I don't want to insist I know what other people should hear. I'm liking my new Blue Mo-Fi headphones. But these are interesting me.
 
Philips Unveils Lightning Cable-Equipped Fidelio M2L Headphones

Sorry, what? 2.5 has never been industry standard - the only thing it was standard on was blackberries. Every Walkman, audio player, computer, television, or anything else I have ever owned has had a 3.5mm jack on it - since the early 1980s, starting with the first model cassette Walkman Sony ever released.


Nearly all phones prior to the iPhone actually. It's still commonly found on landlines. Also many voice recorders, and basically anything else that needed a speaker+microphone in one. (3.5mm headsets are a relatively new thing)

But yes, for just output (or just input), 3.5mm has been the standard for decades.
 
What do Philips headphones sound like?

Hi. I would like your recommendation here. What flavour of sound do Philips headphones have, typically?

I only have one Philips product. My shaver, which I loathe.

So I don't trust Philips as a brand. But this product seems like a really good package.

However, each headphone manufacturer has its own sound. My favourite is Sennheiser. They seem to make everything sound very exciting to me. I know it's not for everyone, but that's what I like.

I have AKGs which are too raw. B&W P5s which look pretty good but the sound is boring. I have Bose sit-in-the-ear which are muddy and kind of gross with their little surgical saddles. I like Ultimate Ears in-ear phones but I haven't tried their headphones. My Shure in-ears sound harsh.

So if you know what Philips goes for, I'd like to know what you think.

Plus if you have tried the Yamaha Pro 500s that look like complete Beats ripoffs, I'd love to know what you think of them. I love my Yamaha keyboard so much I am actually really tempted to get these and plaster their big tuning forks around my head, but I really have turned into a one-woman guy when it comes to headphone sound with the Sennheisers. I have spent far too much money being disappointed with headphone sound. Hey, if you're still reading, thanks for your patience.

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Amen. To each his own. But I don't want to insist I know what other people should hear. I'm liking my new Blue Mo-Fi headphones. But these are interesting me.

Those Blue headphones look fascinating. Thanks for referencing them.
 
Some people probably have more money than sense. Why on earth would anybody buy these that can’t be used on any non apple device? Such a sensible pick from the plenty of options out there that these will be a massive sales hit right?

Well, for me at least, I only listen to music THROUGH my iDevice.

So, theres that I guess. I have no other audio equipment?
 
Not too shabby...


DAC in the headphone would make sense anyway... This would eliminate the "you could only use this phone" argument.

But wait.... you can only use phones with lighting anyway.. so it kinda broads the view bit better.

Now.. all we need is content... If you don't mind paying, you can download 24-bit audio online, but how good is the selection .....
 
But the real question is what FORMAT will the files be?

Apple have been teasing everyone for years that they'll release LOSSLESS ALAC files. Especially when they open-sourced that very format to be playable across platforms a few years ago.
...and STILL nothing. :confused:

I have NEVER bought music from iTunes partly for this very reason. Come on Apple stop mucking your users about, and join the lossless party available on countless other download sites for years now.

It's pretty ridiculous that I can also get a CD album (inc. delivery!) usually for half of the price of an iTunes album, then digitise into (better-than lossy AAC) lossless ALAC myself in the year 2014; soon to be 2015.

(oh, and don't forgot to improve the quality of the ARTWORK while you're at it.)
 
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