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Sorry Apple People That It Not White And Shineing . Apple People Buy Almost Anything With Thier Logo On It.That Apple Can Do This Until They Switch CPU Platforms.
 
milkandcookies said:
Sorry Apple People That It Not White And Shineing . Apple People Buy Almost Anything With Thier Logo On It.That Apple Can Do This Until They Switch CPU Platforms.

I'm sorry, can you repeat that? Me Not Do Understand What Saying You.
 
mikes63737 said:
We're not necessairly more interested in it... most of us are bashing it.

As if Steve didn't present enough Apple products to bash recently...
 
So, now we know what the end product is. Page 3 is live and it's just a glorified tablet PC, running Windows XP tablet edition. But I have to say, the one thing I thought was innovative, was how they shaped the keyboard around the lower corners for easy thumb access. The rest, it's just a modern form of a tablet, nothing new here. Just trying to hype the thing. And NO M$ hardware (as expected)
 
I would have jumped on one of these if it was more similar to the promo video - I prefered the more organic simplified look than the Asus and Samsung offerings. And a 2 1/2 hr battery life? Hardly go anywhere...

Hopefully Apple have a matching product with superior battery life and design. I'll wait to see if that happens....
 
MS and Intel=Origami: What do you do Apple

So far dumping IBM and embracing Intel did simply not yield any competitive advantage for Apple and it will not even in the future.
The latest Mac Mini is just a poor example of it! Remember 1000? Intel engineers working on the transition.

What do we read? MS and Intel start a new category of products, the Origami class. Where is the exclusivity in the "Intel-Apple" partnership?
Intel has already in early March working Conroe processors to build into demo machines and to let them compete against AMD. But no, be happy with Core Duo, as any Dell customer.

Even if Apple comes out with their Origami, so what? Intel already served MS and the other PC manufactures, and A. is just one more customer.

And as the trend is anyhow towards multi core CPUs, A. should have started to use the Cell2 or something similar in addition, to ready their programming know-how for multi-core, way before the mainstream would have done.

What we witness is, that the midterm succes of the iPod jeopardizes the future development. And when the Playstation 3 comes out this year, then that will have a huge impact and yield finally the leap ahead and just stops the spilling of eye candy all over the place.


Apple should have kept the IBM plattform as well. MS wisely enough have serves all the plattforms!
 
rolandf said:
What do we read? MS and Intel start a new category of products, the Origami class.

So far, all we have seen is a small tablet PC with a Pentium M processor. Nothing that Apple couldn't have done if they wanted. Doesn't seem very exclusive to me (especially since Intel's UMPC stuff is probably more interesting for hardware manufacturers, Samsung and Asus already presented their UMPCs at CEBIT in Germany).
 
rolandf said:
So far dumping IBM and embracing Intel did simply not yield any competitive advantage for Apple and it will not even in the future.
The latest Mac Mini is just a poor example of it! Remember 1000? Intel engineers working on the transition.

What do we read? MS and Intel start a new category of products, the Origami class. Where is the exclusivity in the "Intel-Apple" partnership?
Intel has already in early March working Conroe processors to build into demo machines and to let them compete against AMD. But no, be happy with Core Duo, as any Dell customer.

Even if Apple comes out with their Origami, so what? Intel already served MS and the other PC manufactures, and A. is just one more customer.

And as the trend is anyhow towards multi core CPUs, A. should have started to use the Cell2 or something similar in addition, to ready their programming know-how for multi-core, way before the mainstream would have done.

What we witness is, that the midterm succes of the iPod jeopardizes the future development. And when the Playstation 3 comes out this year, then that will have a huge impact and yield finally the leap ahead and just stops the spilling of eye candy all over the place.


Apple should have kept the IBM plattform as well. MS wisely enough have serves all the plattforms!

Um, what?!? The Origami is a development between MS and certain partners - such as Samsung and Asus. I've never read that its a partnership between MS and Intel. And as for your doomsaying, you do remember the tablet PC - what a huge sucess that was. Hardly spelled the end for Apple did it?
Yes the Core Duo will be found in Dells. But its a frickin' Dell!! No OSX, no Apple design.
That's enough troll feeding for now methinks ;)
 
Airforce said:
They must met these requirements:

Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005 OS
Approximately 7” diagonal display (or smaller)
Minimum 800 x 480 resolution
Approximately 2 pounds
Integrated touch panel
WiFi- and Bluetooth-enabled

I like the Asus one

As a road warrior carrying a PDA, Blackberry & Laptop, my immediate responses were:

a) Where's the protective cover over the LCD screen to prevent it from getting trashed?

b) Which pocket does this fit in?

The short answer to both is that it won't fit in any pocket, and it will be damaged unless its carried in a protective sleeve. It will end up in the briefcase. As such, its functionally no better than a laptop for convenience except for weight...and given that I can already 'thumb type' on my Blackberry, for serious writing, I'm willing to carry a real keyboard.

Perfect device for me so far....no idea on battery life yet though.

Huntzinger's Law of Computer Performance Specifications Marketing:

If it isn't volunteered, it isn't good

Here's my conclusion, displayed graphically:

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-hh
 
to really mean something, this thing should have a good internet connection, preferably 1MB/s or more. I don't really know about the US situation, but this is either very expensive or very limited, and mostly both. Can anyone say how M$ solves this, or give some info on wireless internet in the US?
 
WiFi

Macnoviz said:
to really mean something, this thing should have a good internet connection, preferably 1MB/s or more. I don't really know about the US situation, but this is either very expensive or very limited, and mostly both. Can anyone say how M$ solves this, or give some info on wireless internet in the US?

From PC Magazine:

"Built-in WiFi will be standard, and some units will include Bluetooth, an internal mini-PCI slot and EV-DO wide area wireless."

Um..we have wireless internet here in the US. I live in a fairly wired area and, in addition to my home network, there are cafes, buildings, etc. with hotspots.
 
Macnoviz said:
to really mean something, this thing should have a good internet connection, preferably 1MB/s or more. I don't really know about the US situation, but this is either very expensive or very limited, and mostly both. Can anyone say how M$ solves this, or give some info on wireless internet in the US?

Short answer is that it will use a WiFi (802.11g, or similar) to hook up via existing hotspots, and when out of range of any of these, will reach out to your (not included) data-compatible cellphone via Bluetooth to run up your cellphone bill.


EDIT: just checked one of my local cellphone companies: a plan with "unlimited data usage" costs roughly an extra $40 per month ($480/year).


-hh
 
Had something similar, was crap then...

I bought a Sony Vaio VGN-U50 (a 550g, Celeron M, WinXP machine with 800x600 touchscreen display) over one year ago...
First: It's too small to make something usefull with it.
Second: It's still very heavy and doesn't fit in any pocket...
Third: Sure, Windows runs on it, but are you sure you want to edit a word document with a on-screen keyboard ?

The Vaio was crap... Thanks god, Sony cancelled the line, so no new customers can spend a lot of money for this stupid thing !

I'm still looking a place where I can use this thing !


The Origami is not a product, it's an implementation guideline for a "small" Windows Tablet. And nobody will be able to make something usefull with it...
My prediction: It will fail miserably !
 
sishaw said:
From PC Magazine:

"Built-in WiFi will be standard, and some units will include Bluetooth, an internal mini-PCI slot and EV-DO wide area wireless."

Um..we have wireless internet here in the US. I live in a fairly wired area and, in addition to my home network, there are cafes, buildings, etc. with hotspots.

(Just asking) is internet free in those hotspots?
 
people stop hating the world.

people stop hating the world.

i love umpc... coz i'm student who needs to take notes in class and im also a pt fotographer that need a device wif basic foto storage/display/editing + GPS abilities... umpc does all these to me perfectly... 3 hrs batt life might be short.. but hell why not carry more batts coz they aint gonna be that big as ur god darned 17" powerbooks...

apple is now left behind.. with the power of intel and bill, wat steve can do... he'd tried his best bt thats wat apple got - A £300 crappy speaka...

the actual device will be out Q2, so by that time unless Apple announce sth like UMMac with Intel Core Duo, im goin to grab one of the top models of UMPC... hah a ha Macintosh... understandin how hardware consumin Mac OS X is and u wont b expecting 2 much frm a full function mac tablet....

god i dun care how much it is... i jst want sth small , with a readable screen (PDA?Smartfone = real crap) and have certain processing power....
 
EricChunky said:
i love umpc... coz i'm student who needs to take notes in class and im also a pt fotographer that need a device wif basic foto storage/display/editing + GPS abilities...
... and should never have graduated elementary school with spelling this bad.
 
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