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i just don't get it. Both 11 and 11 pro have wide and ultra-wide lenses, same sensors, same optics. Why for the sake of photography i should get a "pro"? Why this article praises "pro" version?
 
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Everyone who currently has an iPhone with less than 2.9 GB should seriously consider upgrading to the NON-Pro, if they are NOT already considering one of the two Pro models.

What on earth are you talking about ?

What does it matter to me?

I have no idea how much RAM has been in any of my iphones and I couldn't care less, frankly. Why does it matter? Go back to Android with your specs and numbers and leave the iphone to people who use phones.
 
People sure are upset at the idea the iPhone 11 has great cameras.

How else can one explain all the negative posts (lets see RAW, of course they look good - he’s a professional, why doesn’t he show the original uncropped version.....).
 
The dynamic range of the Pro seems pretty good considering what night mode is doing for images. The future of the iPhone camera system is pretty exciting, but I just upgraded because I wanted to avoid the square tri lens blob. I carry enough cameras around with me I barely use my phone to make photographs these days.
 
"bright"

Technically the term is overexposure.

Wrong. Bright as in brightness. Overexposure will result in over brightness.

Points me to where the iPhone photo at 6:24 was overexposed perhaps? Because if you look, the highlight was more or less at the same level of Pixel's only on Pixel you can see some lights in the background ACTUALLY overexposed while those on iPhone retained some details.
 
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True. But it has nothing (or very little) to do with the camera and everything to do with the photographer. The picture was carefully staged. It would look good if it was taken with a disposable camera. The same is true for other pictures.
So all cameras are worthless that cost more than $5 by your logic.
 
My $0.02:

Everyone who currently has an iPhone with less than 2.9 GB should seriously consider upgrading to the NON-Pro, if they are NOT already considering one of the two Pro models.

Both the X & the XR, the two most-popular iPhones the past two years, each have ~2.8 GB of DRAM.

The NON-Pro iPhone 11 "appears" to have 3.7-3.8 GB of DRAM !

That will make an absolutely HUGE difference in what kinds of apps can be run on it (vs the X & XR) !

The XS, XS Max, 11, 11 Pro, & 11 Pro Max are ALL in the same 3.7-3.8 GB DRAM ballpark.

High-Perf camera apps can be run efficiently & effectively ONLY on those five iPhones, plus a few select iPads.

IMO, the NON-Pro 11 "appears" to be very good value ! ... a rarity from Apple these days !!

BTW, the "appears" is there simply because the amount of DRAM has yet to be confirmed to my satisfaction.

Do you have anything sources to support that? I have never had any problems with memory on any iPhone, so I have no idea what apps you are saying that I can't run, that I would want to. So many people create this false ram size narrative. After all, it was just a few years ago that having 3gb or 4 gb on a PC was an extravagance, and yet people did all sorts of stuff on computers. There were even clowns out there saying you needed 32gb just to run Chrome browsers. There is also a thing called virtual memory, yah? While you may have a point, I think you owe it to all of us ("Everyone who currently has an iPhone with less than 2.9 GB") exactly what you are talking about. Thanks
 
I feel like the same camera story gets reposted every single year, just swapping the model names. Every iPhone takes terrific pictures until the next year's model is released, and then the no-longer-new model apparently sucks while the NEW-new-model takes amazing photos... until this time next year.

Damn, I hate it when technology improves! but I have not heard anyone say "the no-longer-new model apparently sucks": never, like never, never, ever. Like last year's Pixel3 had (has) a great night mode app, I haven't heard anyone say that now the Pixel3 sucks. And you know the Pixel4 will improve on it. Get ready to throw away those sucky Pixel3s everyone, oh wait, they are still pretty darn good - never mind
 
Has Apple guaranteed that no additional lenses or other equipment were used to create these shots? If not, I’d assume that some or even many were. MacRumors should seek clarification.

I don’t believe or trust that these are iPhone-only shots. I believe Apple aren’t so stupid as to completely fake them with DSLR cameras like the competition has been routinely caught doing, but I do think they will use every trick in the book to get as much light and dynamic range (etc) as they can, and that includes using expensive and cumbersome add-on lenses, complex studio-like setups (reflectors, lighting and external flashes etc) or professional mobile rigs.

If complex, expensive and impractical setups were used, it’s extremely misleading (and borderline false advertising) to purport to consumers that it’s the quality you can get from the iPhone alone, yet they do this every year.
 
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Some great tech, but there has to be a point where somebody decides its more cost effective to buy a lesser model iphone and a proper DSLR camera. If your semi-serious about photography, surely this makes sense?
Depends. Lots of value to having it in one device you always have with you.
 
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Stunning photography. Don't be fooled however - it's not just the great camera that helps produce such great pictures, it also takes a great photographer. Love this person's work!
 
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This new iPhone reminded me how much more I can still do with my iPhone XR Max and my beautiful GoPro hero 7.

Update to this hideous 3-eye overpriced phone? Nah thanks mate, I already got everything I need to exactly what you’re showing me. 😎📸

Maybe next year Apple.

You do realize that Apple won’t ditch their redesign of the back portion after only 1 year, especially since people already start liking it and the iPad Pro getting the same square. Expect any kind of redesign (if there will be any) to be adressing the front portion of the iPhone or the notch only.
The camera square is here to stay and will most likely be extended with a tof Sensor next year
 
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Consensus so far is iPhone 11 flashless night shots are finally usable but they have a tendency to be blown out. A brighter shot doesn't necessarily mean a better shot if it ruins the mood like 6:24 in iJustine's video. Also, dark night sky and skin tone tend to be overly yellow. And, HDR isn't as good as Pixel Night Sight gen 1 (7:14) with gen 2 coming next month.

Amazing advancement though that blown out flashless night shot on mobile phone is a thing in 2019.


Off-topic -- I tried to get through that video, but Justine's "OMG" Valley girl reaction to almost everything she saw made it impossible for me to finish. I keep waiting for a video from her where she acts her age (35). Maybe that will happen sometime during the next decade.
 
Frankly I don’t care what professional photographers can do with an iPhone. I don’t carry lighting equipment, umbrellas, meters, or go out looking for the best conditions to take a picture nor do I spend hours shopping the picture afterwards. (Not even if I ever took a selfie. I am who I am.)

I along with almost every single person sees their dog doing something cute they point and shoot. If I’m walking by the lake and the fall colors are beautiful...I point and shoot and probably message it.

These professional photographer going “hands on” stories are really quite pointless.
It's interesting to see the potential and capabilities of the new iPhone's camera. Just like my watch, I won't ever go diving 100m below the water, but it's nice to know it can stand up to a little abuse. Or my GoPro, I don't use it for extreme sports/conditions, but it's nice to see that if it takes a bit of a tumble, I don't have to worry.
 
You do realize that Apple won’t ditch their redesign of the back portion after only 1 year, especially since people already start liking it and the iPad Pro getting the same square. Expect any kind of redesign (if there will be any) to be adressing the front portion of the iPhone or the notch only.
The camera square is here to stay and will most likely be extended with a tof Sensor next year

You’re probably right but I sincerely hope that’s not the case.

I’m a still huge fan of the olde-good-days of Apple where design was more important than making millions.

Perhaps they could find a way to preserve the cameras without making them so obviously visible and then I’d be ok.

In my humble opinion, this is a step forward in performance and a step backwards in design.
 
To be perfectly honest, all this praise for the new camera module sure as heck makes me want to order one... then I wake up to reality and realize the XS Max is already an incredible phone and as of right now I don't take too many pictures. Dang Apple marketing.
This is me exactly. Normally, a camera upgrade would not be nearly enough to push me to upgrade, but that night mode.. No, no, my XS Max is working just fine..
 
Has Apple guaranteed that no additional lenses or other equipment were used to create these shots? If not, I’d assume that some or even many were. MacRumors should seek clarification.

I don’t believe or trust that these are iPhone-only shots. I believe Apple aren’t so stupid as to completely fake them with DSLR cameras like the competition has been routinely caught doing, but I do think they will use every trick in the book to get as much light and dynamic range (etc) as they can, and that includes using expensive and cumbersome add-on lenses, complex studio-like setups (reflectors, lighting and external flashes etc) or professional mobile rigs.

If complex, expensive and impractical setups were used, it’s extremely misleading (and borderline false advertising) to purport to consumers that it’s the quality you can get from the iPhone alone, yet they do this every year.
Can you point me to an example in the past where Apple has been 'caught' using any of those things you list?
 
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