Can you turn all of these software tricks off and just take a straight up pic?
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Photographer Austin Mann Tests the iPhone 12 Pro's Camera
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Most people don’t expect to use a tripod when using a phone camera! So any marketing shots that use them are disingenuous if it’s not stated clearly or obvious in the ad.
A lot of amateur photographers really need to get over themselves.
Claims about what a real camera is, why a phone can never replicate a real camera etc just sound bitter and completely ignore the evidence right in front of their eyes.
Camera phones can take some incredible images, as well as some credible images in difficult situations. Show me one DSLR who can shoot a 3 second image handheld in near darkness and produce results better than the 12Pro. Or show me a DSLR which has Lidar and knows the exact distance to subject to ensure great focussing. Or one that has 100% Focus Pixels?
Photography is about images, not about gear. Yes, some good DSLR's can beat a phone camera, but not everyone wants or even knows how to get the best out of a DSLR. Dump the snobbery and accept there is room enough for both to exist and meet their specific target groups.
Claims about what a real camera is, why a phone can never replicate a real camera etc just sound bitter and completely ignore the evidence right in front of their eyes.
Camera phones can take some incredible images, as well as some credible images in difficult situations. Show me one DSLR who can shoot a 3 second image handheld in near darkness and produce results better than the 12Pro. Or show me a DSLR which has Lidar and knows the exact distance to subject to ensure great focussing. Or one that has 100% Focus Pixels?
Photography is about images, not about gear. Yes, some good DSLR's can beat a phone camera, but not everyone wants or even knows how to get the best out of a DSLR. Dump the snobbery and accept there is room enough for both to exist and meet their specific target groups.
I just need a 5X optical zoom from the iPhone. Then it can replace my DSLR.
Because even a tripod is a piece of additional equipment that you don't casually carry around.
As a user regularly taking photos while on the move, I would love to see examples of handheld 5" Night Mode shots side by side (11 Pro and 12 Pro) with the stock camera app. It's a much more common, real life scenario than taking tripod shots in the wilderness using Halide.
Your point seemed to be that smartphones aren’t the same quality as pro cameras. But I don’t think the article has anything to do with pro equipment.
Yes and no. The Wide camera has a larger sensor, but with the "Tele" camera, the Max might be longer but it is f2.2 vs the Pro's f2.0. Both Pros get Apple's Computational Raw so I would say that unless you shoot a lot in low light the benefit's of the Max's larger sensor aren't that important since the Pro has Night Mode.
But I agree that its crappy that both Pros dont have the same cameras.
Strongly agree. As someone who makes a living as a photographer, I’ve never met a professional photographer who cares about what camera someone uses.
It is a real camera. I have owned plenty of what you call "real" cameras, including an Arca-Swiss 4x5. But for the last five years prefer shooting with my iPhone.
Photography and making photographs is not about gear.
What picture you referred to? The Austin Mann photo? He stated very clear which one he’s using a tripod.
On Apple website? Well, there’s also this
Just because you didn’t pay attention doesn’t mean it’s someone else fault.
People who care about photography and results achieved in difficult situations do. Even with so-called "real" cameras.
Not just about gear, but in my last years' experience, I agree. It's all about capturing the moment with good accuracy, not getting the perfect bokeh at a wedding photoshoot.
Then place it on a table and hold still. Can’t you be creative?
This one. 3 seconds. No light (except from iPhone screen in front)
Because even a bona fide photographer doesn't walk around 24/7 with a tripod in hand. Why are you being rude to people?
All of this would be so easily solved with a simple disclaimer underneath the photo itself. It doesn't remove from the value of the photo or the photographer. It simply sets expectations straight.
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I think that's the ideal phone in this lineup.
So true. And so sad many seem to be irritated that has opened the art of photography to millions more people who would not otherwise engage in the art and craft.
I suspect many here in earlier times would have objected to typewriters and word processing software as tools of the devil, potentially opening up creative writing to millions of people. Perish the thought!
I think you're arguing against a point that almost no one is making. Every photographer I know (pro or otherwise) acknowledges that phone cameras are amazing, and that for most people they're probably the best camera they own.
But then you say that "Photography is about images, not about gear", and in that regard there's still a big divide between what a dedicated camera can do and what a phone can do, even under good conditions. This isn't about ******** on phones or putting cameras on a pedestal. A larger sensor captures more light, interchangeable lenses give better options for zoom, depth of field, etc. Phones can make up some ground with computational photography and features like night mode but if you abstract away all the gear and just look at the images, the dedicated camera will give you the better shot 9/10 times.