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The iPhone photos are Okey as long as you're not watching them on a 4K TV. Horrible
 
The iPhone photos are Okey as long as you're not watching them on a 4K TV. Horrible
Depends on the amount of editing or potential other quality degrading methods applied. 12mp is a greater resolution than 4K, so you shouldn’t be seeing any lack of quality all things being equal.
 
The iPhone photos are Okey as long as you're not watching them on a 4K TV. Horrible

What kind of issues do you see?

The photos from my XS look fine on both my 4K TV and 4K monitor. Of course a fat file from my big cams looks better and the fake bokeh effect will show issues on closer inspection but the image quality especially on the 1x cam looks pretty good.
 
11 Pro, still good.
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What kind of issues do you see?

The photos from my XS look fine on both my 4K TV and 4K monitor. Of course a fat file from my big cams looks better and the fake bokeh effect will show issues on closer inspection but the image quality especially on the 1x cam looks pretty good.

iPhone JPG/HEIC files look terrible on 4k, 5k monitors when you punch into them and look around. Smeary and blurry details due to over-sharpening and overly aggressive noise reduction. This is no secret, a few examples below. Apple really needs to address their in camera processing because its well behind the competition. Shooting in RAW helps this a lot and ProRAW should be great.

 
iPhone JPG/HEIC files look terrible on 4k, 5k monitors when you punch into them and look around. Smeary and blurry details due to over-sharpening and overly aggressive noise reduction. This is no secret, a few examples below. Apple really needs to address their in camera processing because its well behind the competition. Shooting in RAW helps this a lot and ProRAW should be great.


Ah yeah agreed if you zoom in on any smartphone image it looks pretty terrible due to the smudging of noise reduction. But this is normal for a tiny image sensor. Computational photography can do some smart sharpening to create the illusion of detail that is not really there, but that's not the same as a clean image captured with large photosites at low ISO.

I still find iPhone images are pretty decent on big screens at normal viewing distances.
 
images are pretty decent on big screens at normal viewing distances.
 
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For the casual photographer, upgrading to a camera that lets in 27% more light and lets you shoot RAW (ProRAW instead of HEIF), may not make sense - your call.
I do some photography casually indeed, when I have time (www.dylikowski.com) and when I do, I mostly use Canon DSLR or R5 recently.
 
I do some photography casually indeed, when I have time (www.dylikowski.com) and when I do, I mostly use Canon DSLR or R5 recently.
The quality of the photos on the website you linked far and away surpasses the quality of the of the photos you have posted so far on this thread.
By quality I’m talking photographer ability not camera quality.
Well done if it’s your work, beautiful portraits.
 
The quality of the photos on the website you linked far and away surpasses the quality of the of the photos you have posted so far on this thread.
By quality I’m talking photographer ability not camera quality.
Well done if it’s your work, beautiful portraits.
Thank you. It is my photographs:)
 
Why? Are you also unhappy when Toyota loads more advanced features into a Lexus than a Corolla? If you pay more, you do have a right to expect more than a jazzier name for your purchase.
It’s not about the cost, it’s about the size (for me). The Max is simply too big and unwieldy for me to use every day, but I really want the best camera available.

If they simply can’t fit the Max specs into the non-Max Pro, that’s one thing, but if it’s a money thing, that just sucks.
 
It’s not about the cost, it’s about the size (for me). The Max is simply too big and unwieldy for me to use every day, but I really want the best camera available.

If they simply can’t fit the Max specs into the non-Max Pro, that’s one thing, but if it’s a money thing, that just sucks.

It’s a fact of life. Companies do this all the time. It’s how they get people to buy the bigger phone, on which they probably have a higher profit margin
 
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