Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Hmmm can't really see a big difference to the 11 Pro in any of the shots.
Yea, thought I was gonna be missing out in the camera department by not upgrading, but I guess I'm just susceptible to Apple's marketing more than I thought. These are still just phone pictures, and while incrementally better in more extreme circumstances like dark or hdr environments, it's not as jaw dropping as I thought it would be. Portrait mode is still only unusable with smooth isolated objects. Great upgrade for those who get a new phone every 4-5 years though.
 
  • Like
Reactions: calstanford
9E251BEB-3936-4DCB-9EDD-88044861C851.jpeg
935CE836-F435-4C99-9E5C-1067DE9FDFA3.jpeg
DFB6C2CA-DFB2-4FF4-9D79-CA886747BF3C.jpeg
 
How much better is the 12 pro compared to 11 pro?

Do you guys think the 12 pro MAX will overrule and be a huge improvement compared to the 12 pro? I am really in doubt about the size of the phone.. I like the 11 and 12 pro size, but again, if the camera is so much better I might consinder take the max edition..

Between the 11 Pro and 12 Pro the main difference is in the ultra wide lens, as it is slightly sharper, has OIS, less distortion and also got deep fusion and night mode. If that's important for you then it's worth the upgrade. The wide is better but I don't see major differences. Maybe in extreme conditions (very dark, for example) you could tell one from the other. Telephoto seems unchanged.

I think the 12 Pro Max is where we'll see noticeable differences with the larger sensor + sensor shift, but we won't know for sure until the reviews start coming out.
 
I didn’t mean I wanted to see Tranquility Base. You know how sometimes at night you look to the sky and marvel how big and beautiful the moon looks? Ya, that. Your eyes see this giant glowing plate in the sky, then you take a picture with your camera and you get a dot. I hope that clears things up.
I hear ya. That’s actually a sort of illusion—ie the moon, relative to the field of view captured by a ‘normal’ or wide angle lens, is roughly the size of a dot no matter how big your eyes and brain are making it seem. Those shots of the moon looking huge over a line of buildings or trees or whatever are usually shot with a very long lens which is compressing the distance and showing just a tiny fraction of the whole scene. That said, maybe these new HDR 3 phones do a better job of capturing some detail in the moon rather than just showing a bright, washed out dot... No idea.
 
Can we get more night pictures, especially ones of the moon? It’s always annoyed me how the moon could look like a giant plate to my eyes but my camera picks up this tiny dot.
The moon (or the sun) are both the same apparent size (the sun is much bigger obviously, but also much farther away). They'll always be a "dot" on any wide angle picture.
To get it to start to fill a screen you need to have the 35mm equivalent of a lens longer than 600mm (even better: 800mm) - not for your phone in other words. Such a lens costs way more than any phone in itself.

That you experience the moon as visually large in the sky is an optical illusion.
See here for an in depth discussion: https://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/moon/horizon.html
 
Last edited:
I hear ya. That’s actually a sort of illusion—ie the moon, relative to the field of view captured by a ‘normal’ or wide angle lens, is roughly the size of a dot no matter how big your eyes and brain are making it seem. Those shots of the moon looking huge over a line of buildings or trees or whatever are usually shot with a very long lens which is compressing the distance and showing just a tiny fraction of the whole scene. That said, maybe these new HDR 3 phones do a better job of capturing some detail in the moon rather than just showing a bright, washed out dot... No idea.
Optical illusion is indeed the right term.

To get a picture of the moon that "works": try to underexpose it: the automated systems typically wash out all the detail there is to be had.


Most pictures of a landscape+moon are composites to be honest. Very, very few are just one picture.

What is somewhat feasible to make is a picture of the moon with an object in front of the moon that gives a black silhouette. Still if you try to get something like an airplane in there: it's *much* faster in photoshop than in real life - I tried a few nights: very, very hard to pull off.
 
  • Like
Reactions: johnnylarue
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.