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Pioneer Demos Latest CarPlay-Enabled Aftermarket Receiver at Paris Auto Show
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My 2009 Ford Sync system already does all of this, when you consider that I just mount my iPhone in easy reach and connect via Bluetooth. I can then have Siri control just about everything, and it still uses the car's speakers, microphone, etc.
Best of all, it's not $600! Sure, the larger screen might be nice, but with my 4.7-inch iPhone, and especially for those with the Plus, this is becoming less necessary.
The other thing to think about is that this will be somewhat of a static system. There may be updates and such, but what if Apple changes something major again? Will this keep up? Will it look and feel dated in two years?
I prefer the whole experience to be centered around the phone, because that will always be current, with updates, interface, etc.
Best of all, it's not $600! Sure, the larger screen might be nice, but with my 4.7-inch iPhone, and especially for those with the Plus, this is becoming less necessary.
The other thing to think about is that this will be somewhat of a static system. There may be updates and such, but what if Apple changes something major again? Will this keep up? Will it look and feel dated in two years?
I prefer the whole experience to be centered around the phone, because that will always be current, with updates, interface, etc.
ive had the AppRadio 1 & 3. some thoughts from the vide:
1) I'm certain it will retail closer to $500, just like the other iterations.
2) they removed the physical volume & home buttons. this is a step backward in usability... i know the display is touch, but i don't plan on touching it while driving -- except the volume, that i often have to adjust due to speed/noise.
3) the touchscreen still looks sluggish. always has been since AR1. really wish they'd improve the hardware in this regard. id gladly pay more for a better experience.
1) I'm certain it will retail closer to $500, just like the other iterations.
2) they removed the physical volume & home buttons. this is a step backward in usability... i know the display is touch, but i don't plan on touching it while driving -- except the volume, that i often have to adjust due to speed/noise.
3) the touchscreen still looks sluggish. always has been since AR1. really wish they'd improve the hardware in this regard. id gladly pay more for a better experience.
I really like the "hey siri" function in iOS 8. I store my phone in my glovebox/cup holder box and it charges there. When I need to send a text, i'll just lift the cover with one hand (so I can remain driving and eyes on the road) and ask away.
i don't have a plus. there ya go. (who'd thunk, we aren't all the same?!).
also, i like my local radio.
also, Car Play's UI is easier to use than the normal springboard tap targets.
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no different than years past. you'll get them for $500 -- normal price for a double-din touch-enabled head unit. has hook ups for reverse camera, amps, etc.
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it's not more dangerous, it's less -- the CarPlay UI is larger and easier than the normal springboard. the operations are streamlined as well.
it also supports Siri Eyes Free, for audio-only control. has since the last version.
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how do you look your vehicle's reverse cam up to your phone? steering wheel controls?
oh yeah, you can't.
Tough to say from the video but in it the screen looks horrendous compared to an iPhone screen, especially that of the 6/6+.
Also, Hey Siri has removed one of the key points of carplay IMO. That said, my car doesn't have iPod control so I can't get my phone music into my car stereo. I'd like to do that, but not for $600.
Also, Hey Siri has removed one of the key points of carplay IMO. That said, my car doesn't have iPod control so I can't get my phone music into my car stereo. I'd like to do that, but not for $600.
in most cars you can remove the custom dash covers and install your own head unit in the double-din mounting bracket underneath.
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no, not a requirement. apple announced both wired and wireless protocols, but most manus are rolling out wired-only right now, for reasons I'm not aware of.
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its not about the screen size, it's about UI and integration. CarPlay is better suited for auto use than normal iOS. also, you can't integrate your phone into your car's steering wheel controls or car cameras -- head units can.
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I've used these units -- if all you plan to do is play music, you don't need to take your phone out of your pocket, because BT.
if you plan on using the GPS you'll want to plug it in anyway, because: 1) external GPS antenna, and 2) battery charging while GPS is draining it.
oh yeah? how do i install your 2009 Ford Sync into my 2005 Scion?
an integrated dash system is way easier and more convenient than operating a cell phone. and in same places, more legal.
you don't understand CarPlay. it IS your phone -- your iPhone drives the UI, the head unit becomes an external touchscreen. if apple changes the UI in CarPlay, it changes when you use it on the head unit.
if i want to swap it out in a few years for a different head unit, i can. your 2009 Ford Sync is static.
There should be an option in iOS to temporarily change the layout of the phone interface to be more "car friendly".
What do you mean by upgrade? You can generally always remove a factory system and install something else. It may not look as slick/matched to the car. But they are all based on the same principles as they ever have been, mostly 2-DIN spaces now, just right for something like this to take its place.
The home screen is simple enough to navigate. But once that demo drilled down into the list of albums, it would be impossible for many people to see without concentrating really hard on the display. Instead of all that text next to each album, there should just be large album art icons that scroll by.
Again, all of that could also be done from an iPhone mounted in a more accessible position.
I think some people are having a little bit of a hard time making conclusions about CarPlay because it's one of those new things Apple rolled out and then people didn't hear much about it for months. The presentation has never been clear, loud, clean-cut, no BS, it's been presented, dragged out, conversed over.......... shades of Google. I want this but Apple can do better with pushing it...it's gonna end up another 
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I no longer see the point for this.
I am no longer seeing the point of this...and having to push a button on the screen to activate Siri...sounds like a distraction. Since iOS8 I've found benefit of enabling the "Hey Siri" feature [General > Siri > Allow "Hey Siri"]. I usually have my phone plugged in my car, and now I can control music, navigation, everything by just saying "Hey Siri". Can keep my eyes and hands on the road...who would have ever thought
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I am no longer seeing the point of this...and having to push a button on the screen to activate Siri...sounds like a distraction. Since iOS8 I've found benefit of enabling the "Hey Siri" feature [General > Siri > Allow "Hey Siri"]. I usually have my phone plugged in my car, and now I can control music, navigation, everything by just saying "Hey Siri". Can keep my eyes and hands on the road...who would have ever thought
?I agree, I shopped the AppRadio when I got my current system. And other competitors with nav, big touchscreens, etc. Ended up with a single-DIN model (with many features, just not touchscreen) and just kept using my i5 mounted next to it. Now my i6 screen is even bigger, although not as big as the Plus. Very nice.
The real problem with the high-end aftermarket radios (for me) is the nav. I have use for this, but they are always woefully behind dedicated GPSes, and certainly nav apps on a phone. Spending another $600 or more for an outdated nav just doesn't make sense.
Anybody know of a good iPad car mount? Seems an iPad and a Bluetooth headset gives me better functionality than this...
why do people always hate hate hate on the first few iterations of something and then, once the thing gets refined, are the biggest proponents of said thing?
I see that happening here in this instance. Prove me wrong.
I see that happening here in this instance. Prove me wrong.
I still don't see a big problem with using just the iPhone
My point is that UI and integration could be done on board the iPhone. You have named two things that create a problem for this, and wheel controls aren't really as important anymore with this system. So the only solution needed is for the car cameras, which could perhaps be handled by an adaptor that feeds the signal to the phone via lightning or wirelessly.
My point is that UI and integration could be done on board the iPhone. You have named two things that create a problem for this, and wheel controls aren't really as important anymore with this system. So the only solution needed is for the car cameras, which could perhaps be handled by an adaptor that feeds the signal to the phone via lightning or wirelessly.
This is the App-Radio the buttons on the side and bezel reduce the screen size to like 6 inches FWIW.
I'd say the same about my 5... And what does this have to do with local radio?
I remember there was a kickstarter for a dock that replaces your car radio. I think it was going for around $200