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Re: Pioneer DVR-105 Are Shipping Above List Price

Originally posted by Multimedia


I just did what you could have done yourself. Before you post a question like this just look at http://www.pricewatch.com whenever you are tryihng to find something?

http://www.Pricewatch.com has them listed now. But this first batch had to be flown over to get past the dock backup. So raw drives are selling for above list ($249) at least $273 and up for OEM raw drives only. If you wait for the boat to unload, you'll probably find them for $225 in a month or two.

Current low priced leaders in and out of CA:

http://www.avlogic.com/

800-365-1681

CA $273

http://www.isquaredinc.com/

888-307-7372

UT $282


Thanks for the info, but it wasnt really what I was asking. I am wondering if the superdrives have arrived in mass yet (my understanding was that they were delayed due to the long shoreman strike). Just curious if they are hitting stores in mass yet. Anyone?
 
Pioneer DVR-105 Adopter Report

From last week on MacIntouch

Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 21:32:21 -0700
From: Mark Fukami
Subject: Pioneer dvr-105

I purchased and installed the new pioneer dvr-105 dvd-r drive into my g-4 450 dual. It was soo easy, not only that but it works like a champ with no alterations what so ever.

My system is 10.2.2 with 2 gigs ram and 120 gig IBM drives. The drive is 32x read cd-rom, 12x read dvd-rom, 4x dvd-r write, 2x dvd-rw write. I checked it out with toast ti 5, itunes 3, idvd 2 and desktop burn command , .mac backup and the dvd player. The only thing it is not compatible with is retrospect as they have not qualified the drive, express does see the drive but shows it not available.

ASP shows it as fully burn compatible and it is.

I burned a backup cd-r from .mac backup at 16x, same for itunes and toast 5. I used toast to read a vcd I earlier burned from toast and I ripped an audio cd at 9x-12x+, faster than my oem dvd-rom drive. I burned a test dvd-r, 30 minutes of video took 45+ minutes to prepare and 15+ minutes to burn on a generic gold 1x dvd-r disk. I mounted and loaded a dvd-rw full and burned it, this was slow but it was a 1x disk, it took only 15 minutes to prep the data but 45 minutes to burn the full disk and another 25 minutes to verify the disk. I tried erasing (not with quick erase) in toast and finally halted the process after 25 minutes, I have no idea if this is typical with toast. Erased the disk in the finder/disk uilities again quick erase but it only took 5 minutes to erase.

I'll try some other tests with the dvd-rw since I can reuse it. Oops looks like I made a coaster when I interupted the erase in toast.
 
Re: Re: Pioneer DVR-105 Are Shipping Above List Price

Originally posted by buffsldr

I am wondering if the superdrives have arrived in mass yet (my understanding was that they were delayed due to the long shoreman strike). Just curious if they are hitting stores in mass yet. Anyone?

That was a longshoremen LOCKOUT by management not a strike. I think that finally got settled recently. Or it's soon to be settled I saw a brief news report on TV recently.

Yes there was that delay and Pioneer is flying a set in for purcahse above list now. Fry's still isn't advertising it yet so I'd say no. I'll post when I find them at a mass market merchandiser or Fry's in California. Keep studying the Sunday paper advertising supplements.
 
Pioneer DVR-A05U On Fry's Shelves & In Newspaper Ad $299

OK. The A05U (North American version of the DVR-105 in a retail box) has finally reached Fry's shelves.

I opened my Saturday morning papeer today and pulled out the new Fry's 8 page insert and found the A05 on the cover of it featuring the "sale" price of $299 with "no rebate required". So it's in the papers and on the shelves.

This means the drive has finally reached retail shelves in volume and at the suggested retail price promised in the original press release. However, the price on the box was $350. $300 is the sale price. So these may be the ones flown over for early arrival. I sold one to a guy who was going to buy a 2.4x Sony because of reviews he'd read on the web. I told him I'd have to shoot him if he touched the Sony box. He happily walked away with the 105.

BTW CompUSA says they won't be selling the Pioneer DVR-A05U. No explanation was offered.
 
Originally posted by meta-ghost
One A05 was delivered to me today from NewEgg.com.

do you trust this newegg.com shop? I am nervous of online merchants, unless i hear from satisfied customers.

thanks, i cant wait to get to idvd 2.
 
Originally posted by buffsldr


do you trust this newegg.com shop? I am nervous of online merchants, unless i hear from satisfied customers.

thanks, i cant wait to get to idvd 2.

This was my first purchase (the A05) from newegg.com and everything went fine. I ordered on a Friday and it arrived on Monday. Simple installation and it worked straight away. So did iDVD 2.1 which was new to my machine. Previously, I had a DVD-Ram drive.

For those interested in benchmarks, my machine is the following:
G4 450 AGP
10.2.2
Radeon 8500
1 gig ram

The new drive burned a 300meg VCD disk in 1:45min (compared to 7:30min in my scsi 4x).

From iDVD, a 35 min video took 2 hours to burn.
 
Dual Optical

Anyone seen a hack for getting two optical drives installed in last years Quicksilver ? (Or the current Base model with the same case). By the looks of it, only something like an internal zip or superdrive will fit below my CD-R ... would love to buy the A05 and install it below my CD-R
 
Originally posted by crazy_will


i think that dvd-r/rw can be read on more players that +r/rw.

but this isn't the place for this discussion:)

Who are you to decide what can and cannot be discussed on this forum. I'm getting so tired of you members who think you have to set boundaries for what can be discussed. If someone has an interest, and there are people willing to reply, I say discuss away. If there are replies to a question or topic, there is obviously interest.
 
DVD is dead, bring on Blu-Ray Discs

Originally posted by nixd2001


The main proponent of DVD+R is Philips. MS may have joined in recently, but they're sticking their fingers in to most things DVD at present, so I wouldn't read too much into that. Strip away all the spin and DVD-R vs DVD+R is Pioneer vs Phlips. Sony is the interesting player here because they want to back the winner (they always do) and they're now backing both formats. This suggests to me that this division isn't about to go away for a while, unfortunately.

They (the industry) will NEVER decide on a standard format for DVD recording so that's why I'm so glad DVDs will be obsolete in about 5 ~ 10 years (if that long). Bu-Ray Discs will replace DVDs and the sooner the better. I'm sick of these DVD format wars.
 
Okay then. DVD will eventually be obsolete, so will fossil fuels. For now, the so called 'format wars' aren't really that big a deal. Buy the DVD burner that you think best suits your needs and budget, and burn away.
Blue Ray isn't ready yet, won't be for a while and all indications are that it will be very expensive, especially at first. The Blue Ray players won't be able to play current DVD's unless they build in a seperate red laser to the unit, and they will be cartridge based since the surfaces are so fragile. The upside is that they will be true HD. That's what I want. HD content on an HD monitor.
 
Originally posted by SPG
Hmm, I wonder if that would work. I know that iDVD won't even launch unless you have a superdrive built in, but once launched is it possible to select which drive to burn to?
Also does iDVD create a file folder hierarchy and burn the Video_TS folder, or does it mux the files on the fly so that the burn won't get ahead of the simultaneous multiplexing?

Also anyone have any experience putting an aftermarket A03 or A04 drive into a Mac that didn't come with one and run iDVD succesfully? I'm thinking of slapping a A05 into my G4 DP867 at home for kicks, and was wondering about the precedent.

And in case anyone is curious I have on the shelf a S201 DVD burner that I paid $4500 for and it only burns 1X authoring media at $20 a shot. It's only two years old, and hasn't been used since I got an A04 firewire setup. At least I didn't pay $20,000 for the S101.

Yes! A friend of mine did buy an aftermarket Pioneer A04 external drive here in Japan and yes it is working fine with iDVD.
 
Yeah, fossil fuels can't be obsolete fast enough. Then we might breathe clean air and not be led into war by greedy buttheads. Oops, I think someone said something about going off topic. What I want to know is what are the chances that Apple or a 3rd party drive maker will enable me to hook up an external burner to my iBook and write a DVD from iDVD? Sorry I couldn't afford a professional model. Why should that prevent me from using a consumer iApp?
 
MPEG2 conversion on an iBook will be painfully, terribly, awfully slow for one, and I think there was another reason, but Apple legal waved there hand in front of me and said "These are not the third party enablers you are looking for." and so I can't remember who actually made it possible, then got sued, then unmade it possible.
 
Re: Dual Optical

Originally posted by bigwreck
Anyone seen a hack for getting two optical drives installed in last years Quicksilver ? (Or the current Base model with the same case). By the looks of it, only something like an internal zip or superdrive will fit below my CD-R ... would love to buy the A05 and install it below my CD-R

I can't find my bookmark for it. But I've seen it and it's complete with many photographs. Not a hard to do hack. I'll keep looking and make a new post when I find it.
 
A05 works great!

Just bought the Pioneer DVR-A05 and it works great, both with Toast 5.2 AND iDVD!

FYI: had problems with DVR-A03 after using the supedrive firmware update apple released some time ago - but flashed it back to the original apple firmware 1.49 and the A03 started to work fine again.
 
firmware question....

My concern is that when I get my A05, do I need to update my firmware? I have a DP450 G4 and apple knows that it's not supposted to have a superdrive. What are the steps to prepare my computer?
 
correction

Well, it turned out that the A05 does not work with iDVD 2. Not yet anyway. I can read and write perfectly fine in Toast. I can also work in iDVD, but when it comes to burn the material, it ends and says that I've inserted a blank media and asks me if I want to "initialize"...

...I guess I'll have to wait for iDVD 3!?

anyone got a solution?
 
Re: correction

Originally posted by el gringo
Well, it turned out that the A05 does not work with iDVD 2. Not yet anyway. I can read and write perfectly fine in Toast. I can also work in iDVD, but when it comes to burn the material, it ends and says that I've inserted a blank media and asks me if I want to "initialize"...

...I guess I'll have to wait for iDVD 3!?

anyone got a solution?

There really shouldn't be any problem with it working - give us more info. You definitely need 10.2.2.

I have a three year old G4 450 tower, did not do any firmware update and iDVD 2.1 worked straight away. Granted the old machine takes awhile for the first three stages of preparing to burn from iDVD, the fourth stage (actual burning) on a 50 minute video takes 25 minutes total.
 
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