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Pirating Question: What would you do?

glocke12

glocke12

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I am a big fan of the music of the Grateful Dead and already own an embarrassingly large amount of their music, both official releases and live shows in the form of audience bootlegs and soundboard recordings.

Last week it was announced that ALL of the shows from the Europe '72 tour will be released in a special limited edition box set containing 60 discs at a price of $450.00.

(http://www.dead.net/features/release-info/holy-s-it-s-complete-europe-72-box-over-60-discs).

For fans of the band this is HUGE, the box set has sold out but they will be releasing individual shows later on that you can get on disc.

Here is my problem. I've got my order in, and have already been inundated by people that are asking me to copy ALL 60 DISCS over to their hard drive, with the expectation that I would do this for free....

I'm really trying to wrap my head around this. Ive traded music in the past, but this is a little different. Not only is this a ton of money, but Im also thinking these people really have a set of balls to ask me to supply them with this music essentially for free.

Thoughts?
 
I would tell them no. Tell them to wait until the individual shows are released and they can buy them then.
 
Technically, whether you do it for free or for money, you're still illegally pirating music, so you might as well get compensation for your time.
 
Personally, I would say no. Even if it was completely legal, the people in question have shown an 'expectation' that you will not only do a favor that you do something that would take lots of your time up. They are also expecting that you would give them your $500 of music for free. Expectation of things like that is IMO not a good character trait.

And I really wish I didn't see this as I am a bit of a Deadhead myself.
 
Apple OC said:
are you hoping to sell it to them?
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No.

For one thing, I am really not down 100% with the pirating thing, though I would be lying if I said I never downloaded any torrents.

If it was one very close friend and someone who I knew would do me a solid favor at some point I would not mind hooking them up, but it is not anyone like that, they are basically "fringe" friends. People I associate with but I would not really call friends.

Like I said, I also think it takes ALOT of nerve to ask someone your not best buds with to basically give them almost $500.00 worth of music for free.
 
No.

But without researching it, it sounds like a stupid move to cut off preorder sales.
 
NickZac said:
Personally, I would say no. Even if it was completely legal, the people in question have shown an 'expectation' that you will not only do a favor that you do something that would take lots of your time up. They are also expecting that you would give them your $500 of music for free. Expectation of things like that is IMO not a good character trait.

And I really wish I didn't see this as I am a bit of a Deadhead myself.
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I hear that! Im no stranger to dropping wads of cash on frivolous stuff, but things have been pretty tight lately. If it was not for the fact that you don't have to pony up the money until the fall I would not have done this.

Also, as an FYI I heard that the "sunshine daydream" movie will be getting released on DVD this year also.
 
You definitely shouldn't feel under any obligation to do it. I can understand that people may be disappointed about not being able to get hold of a copy (or not being able to afford it) but asking someone else to pirate it for them is not the way to go!

If they just want the music then, as you say, they can pick it up legally later and I'm sure someone else will put the whole thing out there to torrent eventually.

As a final thought, surely the nice thing about these box sets is owning all of the extras that come with it too!
 
I gave that website a quick read.

Unless I'm confused, it looks like the original 7200 copies sold out in 4 days.

But now they are apparently locking people out that didn't preorder, but allowing people that did to purchase additional copies via codes they are e-mailing out?
 
glocke12 said:
I hear that! Im no stranger to dropping wads of cash on frivolous stuff, but things have been pretty tight lately. If it was not for the fact that you don't have to pony up the money until the fall I would not have done this.

Also, as an FYI I heard that the "sunshine daydream" movie will be getting released on DVD this year also.
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It's a lot of money for music, no doubt. With that said, what do you expect from a jam-band? There is nothin like when you're feeling the melody and you just roll with it for a half hour or more.
 
Actually Jerry used to encourage people to tape their shows ... If any Band supported copies of their music ... it was the Grateful Dead.

They defined the term "Bootleg" :cool:
 
i wouldn't. for jam bands or anything that allows trading its usually good practice to tape and trade the live shows until they're officially released, then you take those out of circulation. just a way to support the group.
 
Personally, I would not copy it for them, paid or otherwise. Either tell them to buy them individually, or allow them to borrow it (at which time they will likely copy it, but at least it's their own time and act).
 
When big publishers or whoever deliberately print a minimal number of copies - yeah, they're just begging for piracy.

You can set iTunes up to rip and eject CD's which makes it so convenient, but 60 discs? There's nothing convenient about that!
 
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