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Yet most reviews (for sure the headlines) are touting these as the best Android phones on the market. Maybe that’s just because the tech media has strong Google bias.

My Note 8 is perfectly smooth and fluid so best to them is not best to me. It is what they so-call the pure android experience. They said this last year too. But who would carry a device around with vanilla android, plastic appearance, and a terrible display. Those were all merits to decrease any review scores so there is definite media bias.
 
There is really nothing about this phone I don't love. I'm awaiting my Pixel XL 2, switching from the 7. Nice screen, best camera, UNLIMITED high-quality photo storage with the best smartphone camera? I no longer have to pay for extra cloud storage? I'm pumped.
 
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Google already changed it to $9.

Yeah, only after causing outrage after they tried to rip their users off. The point was that Android fanboys slammed Apple for even having an adaptor and then Google not only has an adaptor but tries to bend them over and charge a crazy price for it. Pretty funny how that all worked.
 
If the Pixel is the best Android phone, then it pretty much confirms what I've been saying... iPhone will own the premium market and Android will be relegated to mid and lower tier markets.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/17...s-but-is-half-as-fast-lacks-many-key-features

Does anyone else wonder how a nondescript phone with so little innovation using off the shelf everything can get so much praise?
https://gizmodo.com/yes-google-uses-its-power-to-quash-ideas-it-doesn-t-li-1798646437

Here's an extreme example:
https://www.theverge.com/2013/2/22/4013406/i-used-google-glass-its-the-future-with-monthly-updates
 
so is the 8 plus and it has been, in my opinion, the best phone i've ever used. It's okay to not have that wow factor to have an amazing phone to offer us.

It should be the best "iPhone", they've had the 6, 6s, and 7 to get that design right... 4th time is the charm I guess?
 
Screen looks "washed out" and colors look muted. Hmmmm. I guess Samsung and Apple grabbed all the premium OLED screens and Google had to settle for what they could get. Pricing a phone at a premium price doesn't make it a premium phone. They might sell 1% of what Apple will sell.
 
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The “wow factor” is in the AI and cloud services.

I fear Apple, and its community are fighting yesterday”s battle. Hardware is important, but it’s not the value you use.

The Verge”s review gets it. Yes, the look and feel of the hardware is basic, but these are tools. And a google is pulling ahead in the way the future of computing will be played.

The Apple community needs to get smart about this and demand more from Apple. We cannot have blinders on to the future.
 
My Note 8 is perfectly smooth and fluid so best to them is not best to me. It is what they so-call the pure android experience. They said this last year too. But who would carry a device around with vanilla android, plastic appearance, and a terrible display. Those were all merits to decrease any review scores so there is definite media bias.
Terrible display? It lacks the eye candy (and side damage prone) edge display, but curious your thoughts as to why it is bad otherwise. Since you apparently have reviewed it yourself, I am curious how a display with a higher pixel density than the Note 8 could be considered grainy (you mentioned that in an earlier post) ?

The “wow factor” is in the AI and cloud services.

I fear Apple, and its community are fighting yesterday”s battle. Hardware is important, but it’s not the value you use.

The Verge”s review gets it. Yes, the look and feel of the hardware is basic, but these are tools. And a google is pulling ahead in the way the future of computing will be played.

The Apple community needs to get smart about this and demand more from Apple. We cannot have blinders on to the future.

Funny thing is, more Android devices are developing silicon to do on device machine learning, to essentially take the cloud, and some of the security concerns off the table. Something that Apple has been working to do, and a selling point for some.

At the end of the day, they all learn from each other.
 
so is the 8 plus and it has been, in my opinion, the best phone i've ever used. It's okay to not have that wow factor to have an amazing phone to offer us.

A smart phone phone is completely subjective. Someone should purchase what they like in terms of build and performance, not based on what reviewers are saying. Everyone has different preferences in hardware and software. But what you like in the end, that's all that matters.
 
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I don't understand the push to 18:9 taller displays in place of the top and bottom bezels. I would much rather have the exact same size display as the iPhone 8 but have the phone shorter. Give me a 16:9 or even a 16:10 screen ratio with small bezels.
 
None of the phones seem to WOW me any more including Apple except for the price they expect consumers to pay.
TBF, hardware manufacturing was always a cut throat business. Customers free updates for life, but updates cost money. It should be a given that if you buy a low end phone, you shouldn't expect much support from it. Seriously, are people still genuinely surprised that an Android phone with a MSRP of $50 to $200 gets so very few updates? Iphones getting 4 to 5 years isn't much when a decent number of folks don't go beyond 1 to 2 major updates that it originally supported, citing concerns of performance hits.

Me... I'm sure I'd like all the bells and whistles of today's $650 to $1200 phones. But really, I just don't want to pay for them. I got an LG G4 used, for $220. The LG G5 was the current model, but at 3x the price, I simply wasn't interested.
 
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