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Well we don't know if it is a separate application or a complete replacement yet.

True, that. The article doesn't specifically say it will be a separate application, but that's just the impression I got from the way it was written.

But I would guess if it isn't a replacement it's to prevent people from whining about a free or discounted upgrade. They can't do that if it's considered a totally brand new app. Also it would give Pixelmator a way to increase the price. They could sell "Pro" for, say $50, and keep Pixelmator at $30 or even reduce it to $20.

To clarify, I've got no issue with charging for an upgrade, or to charge a higher price for a great product with lots of work thrown into it.
I just don't see the need for TWO Pixelmator apps, with one costing more just because of the word "Pro" tacked on to the end of it, *IF* that's what is intended...
 
Bad time for their website to go down.

Personally I'll stay away. After a few years of waiting for a Pixelmator interface which is not made up by miniscule icons in dark grey on a black background, I've given up on the company. Not all of us sit in a completely dark room with screen brightness on "Sun in your face" when we work.
Pixelmator has been a useful tool on my Macs. I don't even use all the features in current form. If regular pixelmator is still updated, I see no problem with them releasing a higher level software.

Today's landscape is more competitive these days(especially with Affinity) so this announcement doesn't surprise me. More competition that releases Adobe's grip is only a good thing.
 
Well we can all speculate on price. But based on what Pixelmator is saying itself I seriously doubt it will be anything near $199: “The target audience is pretty much everyone,” Pixelmator’s Andrius Gailiunas tells The Verge.

If this is for "everyone" then that means consumers. They are not paying $199 for an app I can guarantee. I highly doubt they are paying $99 given you can get PS Elements AND Premiere for $79 or less and that is all a casual consumer needs.

The original Pixelmator is $30. An updated version at best isn't going to be more than $60 and that is reaching. Pixelmator's real competitor is Affinity Photo which is $50. That is where I got my $50 from. Where are you getting your Space Station prices?

They need to segment their market, offering two price points with a clear divide. $20 is not enough, and it would only kill the base version.

We'll discover soon who is closer.
 
Do you know how long Pixelmator has been out without asking users to pay for a single update, of which there’ve been many?

I can’t even remember how many years it’s been since I bought it. Pixelmator is about as good to the customer as you can get yet you find a way to call them greedy slime? Unbelievable!

I have no need for a Pro image editor but if I did I’m sure Pixelmator Pro will offer very good value and support.

No kidding, that post couldn't be more off base given their history of pricing, discounts and no cost updates across major revisions. Mine has been super stable, the current toolset is outstanding, and like a few folks have mentioned, I picked it up like 5 years ago for $15 on sale (and probably even used discounted iTunes credit), easily the best money I've ever spent.
 
They need to segment their market, offering two price points with a clear divide. $20 is not enough, and it would only kill the base version.

We'll discover soon who is closer.

Yes, but as the quote I showed you, there market is "everyone" so there is nothing to segment it would seem based on Pixelmator's own comments, not my speculation. The "Pro" moniker gives them room to go a bit "upmarket" with Affinity. They can't go to Adobe single licensing type pricing.

Also IF they keep Pixelmator AND it's $30 price tag, Pro at $50 would be 40% more expensive. That is a big % differential to someone that doesn't need all the bells and whistles. But I would expect Pixelmator to lower the price of Pixelmator at bit, not keep it at $30, but also only offer maintenance updates going forward. That is IF they keep it for sale.
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I just don't see the need for TWO Pixelmator apps, with one costing more just because of the word "Pro" tacked on to the end of it, *IF* that's what is intended...

Yes, it could go either way, keep Pixelmator as the "entry level" offering or ditch it. It's no different though than Photoshop Elements and Photoshop. One is basics and the other all the frills and capabilities of modern image editing.

Obviously Pixelmator's based and consumer awareness is not at Photoshop levels so your point about two different versions is legit.
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The green Apple slime parts and another greedy head arises from the mirky Apple waters. Apple theory never fix the old. re-package add something small call it new raise the price.Pitiful!!

Put down the moonshine. Labor Day is over.
 
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From reading the other comments, it appears I'm not the only one who's unclear on whether this is a replacement for "regular" Pixelmator or a more expensive but more full-featured alternative. (The fact that pixelmator.com redirects to pixelmator.com/pro with all these announcements doesn't seem to suggest the former, but since the former does all I want, I can dream--unless they happen to keep it around the same price, which seems unlikely.)

Small icons let you have more screen space for photo editing, and dark controls let your eyes focus on the photo better.

Yes, but when the icons are so small I can barely see them and have a hard time seeing what they're supposed to represent, my ability to edit the photo is compromised. If I just wanted to "focus on the photo," I'd use Preview. In an image editor, the editing tools are also important. Either a "light mode" with better contrast or a "large icon" (actually just anything other than "teeny tiny icon") mode would be helpful for me--and lots of other people, it appears. Maybe it's different if you're using a Retina display with the display on full brightness, but lots of people are using external displays, many at "standard" resolutions, with the brightness at acceptable human levels. :)

That being said, the screenshots of this app don't look terrible, but I'm not seeing the traditional tool palette (Pixelmator's biggest visual weakness, IMHO) anywhere. If Pro still includes something like that, I'd be curious to see what it looks like.
 
shows what the Mac platform is capable of when in the hands of some switched-on Mac developers.

Meh. I find a lot of iOS/macOS exclusive developers to be very lazy. I could name a few for whom I stopped using their products because of how rarely they were updated.
 
Pixelmator has been a good app for my hobby needs, although I would not switch to it at work. Considering how much use I've gotten out of that single purchase years back I wouldn't feel bad about upgrading to this version at home. All it needs to do is be better than the original (and already one of the things I did not quite like about Pixelmator - scattered little windows here and there - looks to have been fixed).
 
I just wanted text along a path :confused:

Acorn 6 supports that, FWIW.

Text along anything is so 20th century. Don't you know Emoji's are the new text, no path required because it's users are hopelessly lost. </sarc>.

…including emoji!

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I'm really enjoying Affinity Photo on my new iPad Pro and I'm looking forward to Affinity Designer. I think Pixelmator can't compete with Affinity right now which is why they're doing this. I'm thinking about finally switching from Adobe stuff on my Mac because these third party apps can cover nearly all of my use cases now. Maybe I will after Affinity Designer launches. But even now nothing beats Lightroom for my Photography workflow—and to use that on the iPad I still have to pay a subscription because of all the cloud syncing. I hope a third party app can develop something similar to Lightroom but that rides on top of iCloud since I have 2TB of storage and iCloud works a lot better nowadays.
 
Seeing how I've never been in a team where this was part of the workflow... Who cares. Stick with Adobe suite (and learn it inside out) if you think you want to do anything with your talent.
 
Looks amazing. Real competition in this space is wonderful and we need companies to bring the fight to Adobe and their monopoly and savage pricing.

Two pieces of advice:

1. Don't be afraid to charge real money for this. If the software is great, people will pay for it. Yes, cheap fools will complain on Twitter and Apple chat boards. Ignore them. We need great software and the only way we will get it is profits.

2. No subscriptions. Charge one price. Charge for upgrades when the product makes a big leap in features. But subscriptions play right into what we hate about Adobe, even if it's cheaper.
 
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Until college and universities start abandoning Adobe CC Suite, it will remain the industry standard.
For that to happen, pros will first need to switch...and many won't want to mess with a tried and true workflow.

Not saying it can't happen (eg. InDesign overtaking QuarkXpress), but it's going to take a monumental shift.
 
Got Pixelmator long back, and this is like Panic Inc software - too good in features, too cheap in price. Excellent software. Can't overstate this.

Looking forward to what their Pro version brings.
 
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free update for existing Pixelmator user?

But are you eligible for it, considering the software entry price isn't free either?

I really want to think this is just sarcasm and a joke. These guys make quality software that's up there with the best. Rock solid. Very, very fast. Years of free updates. And yet, still, there's someone who doesn't think twice before asking for free upgrade to this new version. I really hope you were just joking.
[doublepost=1504628171][/doublepost]Their new icon looks so similar to Photos I don't think that's going to work with me. Hope this is not the final logo.
 
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I wonder how this deals with big files? I only play around with Pixelmator so it's not too important to me. However, I find that the iOS version currently tops out at roughly 100 MP & 1 layer. The macOS version caps out at 32,000 x 32,000, though with several layers. However, even at 1 layer, my maxed out late 2013 rMBP chokes on that. Again, it's not that important to me, but to some it might be.
 
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