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With Aperature not getting any updates, and Photos unable to do anything of this level, I am left with a choice, Pixlemator for $30 or Adobe for a monthly charge.

hmmm......

So, I think I will download pixlemator tonight.
Pixelmator is quite good, and I find it's a fine replacement for Photoshop. It also feels more responsive and "native" to OS X than Photoshop ever did. (For what it's worth, the last version of Photoshop that I used was CS3, and I never did anything overly demanding or advanced.)

Pixelmator isn't a replacement for Aperture, Lightroom, Capture One, etc., though. Sorting photos and making quick edits that could be applied across multiple photos are the big features that Photoshop and Pixelmator don't have. Their editing capabilities far exceed what can be done with Aperture or Lightroom.

As an Aperture user, I was sort of hoping that the Pixelmator team would tackle an Aperture/Lightroom replacement next. They do really great work and make very polished software. I'd trust them. Switching to Lightroom would seem to be the obvious choice, but given that Adobe is really playing up the subscription-based version of Lightroom, I'm not confident that it will exist as a stand-alone license version when versions 7 or 8 are released.
 
How does Pixelmator do with selection of fine items like wind blown hair? I've been testing the beta of Affinity Photo and it does an incredible job on that sort of subject.
 
How does Pixelmator do with selection of fine items like wind blown hair? I've been testing the beta of Affinity Photo and it does an incredible job on that sort of subject.
If you're talking about auto-selection (the "magic wand,") I'd say that it isn't great. Of note, I haven't tried it with this latest update, and of note, I've only done it twice while in Pixelmator. It's anecdotal evidence formed on minimal experience and one opinion - take it with a grain of salt.

The auto-selection works a bit differently than it did on Photoshop. Instead of setting a tolerance and then clicking to make a selection, you click, hold, and then begin dragging outward. This changes the tolerance on the fly, and you see the selection change as well. This is superior to the way that it was handled in Photoshop, in my opinion. You could fine-tune one selection, and then start making another selection where the tolerance could also be fine-tuned and different from the first. In that regard, auto-selection had greater utility and was easier to use than Photoshop. The downside was that I felt Photoshop's auto-selection was a bit more discerning; it often seemed as if Pixelmator's would be doing well, and then would suddenly select too much. (Clicking and dragging also made it difficult to do very fine-tuning of the tolerance; there's probably a way to type in the values that I'm not aware of.) The Pixelmator shortcoming could be overcome by making additional selections, but the "magic wand" was nice in that you didn't need to do too much manual work. Pixelmator's "magic wand" is still a lot better than using the lasso tool and manually selecting everything, but it was a bit more involved than I remember it being with Photoshop.
 
If you're talking about auto-selection (the "magic wand,") I'd say that it isn't great. Of note, I haven't tried it with this latest update, and of note, I've only done it twice while in Pixelmator. It's anecdotal evidence formed on minimal experience and one opinion - take it with a grain of salt.

The auto-selection works a bit differently than it did on Photoshop. Instead of setting a tolerance and then clicking to make a selection, you click, hold, and then begin dragging outward. This changes the tolerance on the fly, and you see the selection change as well. This is superior to the way that it was handled in Photoshop, in my opinion. You could fine-tune one selection, and then start making another selection where the tolerance could also be fine-tuned and different from the first. In that regard, auto-selection had greater utility and was easier to use than Photoshop. The downside was that I felt Photoshop's auto-selection was a bit more discerning; it often seemed as if Pixelmator's would be doing well, and then would suddenly select too much. (Clicking and dragging also made it difficult to do very fine-tuning of the tolerance; there's probably a way to type in the values that I'm not aware of.) The Pixelmator shortcoming could be overcome by making additional selections, but the "magic wand" was nice in that you didn't need to do too much manual work. Pixelmator's "magic wand" is still a lot better than using the lasso tool and manually selecting everything, but it was a bit more involved than I remember it being with Photoshop.
Thank you for that information.
 
If you talk value per $$ spend on the app, Pixelmator is the best app out there. Totally amazing and deserves all the awards it gets. And the app is getting so very close to a photoshop replacement for many people. And with the subscription model Adobe is using now, I think Pixelmator is the way to go for most people now.

How the Pixelmator crew can keep the app so cheap I don't know.
 
Just did this in 30 seconds. Does seem to work great. Imagine how long this took me with photoshop 3 and 4 :)

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Hmm.. I got the same results fairly quickly but can't duplicate the success with pictures that have individuals in them. Is there a effect or blending option I must select?
 
With PM updating so often in the next 24 months most things you could ever want in PS will be in PM without the monthly sub fees.

I'm actually surprised Apple hasn't tried to buy them yet.
 
How Adobe can keep Photoshop so stinkin expensive, I just don't know :eek:

I feel it's because of two factors. Adobe PhotoShop is marked up higher because it is the standard for large photo houses early on and they wanted ever increasing profits! Plus it is very complex after a long time adding editing tools I go the program. That requires many developers with photo experience and that can be expensive.

PixelMator was made using the internal tools Apple put into OS X, not creating them from scratched the just like several developers. When it's time that Apple puts a service into a new version of OS X the PixelMator team can put several more plugins into their program.

The modern software service programs just frighten my wallet! Adobe is a public holding company that is looking for ever increasing stick price to keep their jobs and they think they can more money making PhotoShop a software service. IMHO this is why so many regular people about PixelMator since it us still sold as a whole program. Besides to me PixelMator started as an alternative to PhotoShop Express and is starting to compete against PhotoShop itself. Just wait 15-20 years and PixelMator will surpass PhotoShop in features and speed.
 
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I've been moving away from Adobe CC products and have been relying way more on Pixelmator and Sketch though I've hear good things about Acorn. The hardest part adjusting to Pixelmator was muscle memory from the years using Photoshop and the same switch pain points from Illustrator to Sketch.

One thing I've loved about Pixelmator is that they taking advantage of a lot of the Core API's where Adobe uses their own (nothing wrong with that I suppose) and that really shows in performance. Sketch on the other hand has been a love hate relationship but that's mostly due to bugs I've encountered.

Bohemian Coding is always releasing updates with bug fixes and a lot of those I never knew of. It's nice to see they're trying to button up their bug list even if it's a big list and still pushing out features and performance updates. I can appreciate that and it's why I've stuck with Sketch since v1.
 
Nice update! With Pixelmator and iWork '09 I can do quite a bit of content creation much more quickly and easier without sacrificing quality than with other tools I've used. If only there was a Bento replacement, I'd be all set.
 
While Adobe does the same thing with their demonstrations, Pixelmator chose a VERY friendly image to showcase this feature. The lines of the stairs are pretty straight and overall it's a pretty predictable outcome. I'm not trying to take away anything from the new feature but let's not get too excited. Photoshop's "Content-aware" feature is the same thing and has it's limits as well.

True enough, though still fairly impressive. Yea, for example pick some photo of a person's face with glasses, and try to remove the glasses (or something like that) and you'll quickly see how it breaks down. But, for the first few images I picked to test it, I'd have to say I was pretty blown away.

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With pixelmator at the consumer, more user friendly end and affinity photo for more demanding stuff its looking good for an adobe free future.

I agree, as far as photo editing goes outside the 'pro' realm. But, most companies don't pick products based on what is best or the best value. And, Adobe's suite contains a bunch of other core products that many pros need. So, if you have Adobe CC anyway, which are you more likely to use?

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Pixelmator is quite good, and I find it's a fine replacement for Photoshop. It also feels more responsive and "native" to OS X than Photoshop ever did. (For what it's worth, the last version of Photoshop that I used was CS3, and I never did anything overly demanding or advanced.)

Agreed (at least what I can remember too, as I haven't used PS for a few years). That said, it's the whole bundle in CC that might win me back. I'm starting a couple podcasts, so Audition would be useful. I'd have a vector tool instead of having to buy one (i.e.: Affinity Designer, etc.). I'd have pretty much the top video editing and compositing tools (especially since Apple abandoned that market).

There is a lot of worthless garbage in there too, but even what I've mentioned above is well worth the subscription if you're a professional user.

So, I'm kind of torn... I love Pixelmator and Affinity Photo looks great too (and the price is right). But, the whole suite (and 100% compatibility) of Adobe might win me back over.

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Not quite sure I follow what you’re saying. You do know that Pixelmator already contains a full-fledged vector-editing mode, right?

I mean I use iDraw as well, but Vectormator has existed for 2 years now.

Yes and no... there are vector tools within Pixelmator, but not having the ability to import/export is greatly limiting their usefulness for what most graphics professionals do.... let alone begin to compare vector toolsets.

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The modern software service programs just frighten my wallet!

Maybe, though Adobe did a pretty good job of this, IMO. It's easy to spread the cost for software out over time and if you use more than maybe 2 or 3 of the apps, CC is actually not a bad deal.

Who it hurts, I suppose, are really small shops that would just buy the suite and then use it for years and years without upgrading. Or, people who would just steal a copy and use it. But, I don't think these folks were ever Adobe's market in the first place.

I'm really glad to see apps like Pixelmator though, as many small shops and even people who might have stolen Adobe's apps might well buy Pixelmator. And, that helps the whole industry mature and puts gives Adobe some competition.
 
Kudos to the Pixelmator team. I have been a Mac user since 1989 and this the best bang for the buck program I have EVER used. The team is responsive, quick with updates, and the tool "just works". :cool:
 
In one of my posts yesterday I mentioned the hope that the Pixelmator team would come out with an Aperture replacement. I did an internet search to find out if there were any announcements or concrete plans for this to happen. The best I could find was a post on the Pixelmator blog:

Apple has announced that it is discontinuing Aperture and iPhoto development in favor of the Photos app with integrated iCloud Photo Library. We know that many of you are using those apps in combination with Pixelmator. While we might not be able to offer you a replacement app (at least right away), we want to do everything we can to help smooth the transition.

First, we are going to fully embrace the new Photos app. In fact, we can’t wait to see it. When I first saw Apple announce Photos during the Keynote, I thought, finally there’s a secure place to store photos and easily access them on all devices. iCloud Photo Library sounds super great. On top of that, Photos offers extensions, which means that developers like us can integrate some cool editing features and filters right into it. We already have some ideas for it.

Next, if you have any suggestions for tools or features that you’re going to miss since Aperture and iPhotos are gone, write them down in the comments, or shoot us an email at info@pixelmator.com. We’ll be very happy to hear your thoughts.
Emphasis mine. I'd speculate this means that the Pixelmator team have a new project in mind. I hope it's true.
 
In one of my posts yesterday I mentioned the hope that the Pixelmator team would come out with an Aperture replacement.

Let's just hope Apple does a decent job with Photos. This first version is %*$).

That said, it does sound good in theory, and it usually takes Apple a revision or two until they get their new apps out of 'beta' and add core features. I just don't feel like being their tester for those couple of years. :(

And, given Apple's track record in cloud stuff, I'd not trust that with a 10-foot pole... make lots and lots of off-line archives.
 
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